I mean in scifi someone in a time loop remembers the period and thus knows they are in one. If you don't know you are not in one or at least not in one of your own.
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This logical disconnect is even worse than the time loop concept. There’s no logic for someone remembering from a previous loop and even less logic for some people remembering and some not

Was that a !tenforward@lemmy.world, or a !risa@startrek.website trend?
Edit: It was on tenforward, and about a year ago. Nearly time to do it again!
No idea! Maybe both.
You literally just asked me this yesterday. And the day before. And the day before. And you never seem to remember it. And the day before... Oh no!
How do you know we're not in a time loop so long you can live entire lifetimes inside of it?
I don't, but spending time in my time loop worrying about whether or not I'm in a time loop seems like a waste of time
Well, it did last time anyway.
If I'm in a time loop, I'm not aware of it so it doesn't matter and I'm fine with it.
Because things aren't repeating?
Phil? Phil Connors.

I think this obviously implies that your brain is getting reset each loop, in which case you wouldn't be aware of anything repeating.
Are you implying I'm not the hero that realizes it and breaks us all out? How dare you!
But if your brain is getting reset, then really your reality is, so its not so much of a loop as infinite new realities.
but what if you're actually a slave? forced to work each day anew, with no memory of the previous day. i wouldn't call that "your infinite new realities" because those realities aren't really yours, as they don't provide you a path forward at all.
I don't understand this part:
those realities aren’t really yours, as they don’t provide you a place for you at all.
My point is, if I go to sleep tonight and time loops back around to this morning, and I don't remember any of today, then did today really happen? It didn't "happen" in any meaningful way.
It doesn't matter whether I entertained a dozen nubile virgins or toiled as a slave.
Woke
Well, then it's just an unknowable not much different from the afterlife.
Unless you’re in a very long loop. You just haven’t gotten to the loop point yet.
What if the repeat starts right after the point where you die?
Then you wouldn’t have any memory but you would be stuck in the loop.
I mean how do you know if your memories are even real and you didn't just get Men-In-Black flashed with the Neurolyzer thingy and that's why you are a paycheck-to-paycheck wage slave instead of being a multibillionaire CEO like you used to be until you got couped?
Or how do you know your parents are your real parents and you didn't just get lost/kidnapped as a child? (especially before dna tests)
Well, if I am than there isn't anything I can do about it, is there?
You don't know.
This is a thought-terminating exercise, so there's nothing else to say.
To be perfectly fair, saying "there's nothing else to say" is a way stronger example of a thought terminating exercise. Yet here we both are.
No, it's literally just the answer to the (pointless) question.
Maybe I am and it's what religions call rebirth or life after death and in that case I couldn't care less, but I do have memories of yesterday and the days before that, so I'm kinda pretty sure there's nothing loopy going on here.
Because the same exact shit doesn't keep happening every single day.
Because it's always a fresh hell I deal with, none of that stale hell you get from time loops
This hypothetical affects nothing about my life so I'm with the 🤷♀️ gang.
After careful consideration I have come to the following conclusion on this issue:
🤷🏻
Philosophers have reasoned that if the universe is infinite, as it appears to some that it might be, then every permutation of all possible configurations of matter and energy will occur infinitely many times. Therefore, everything that happens now will have happened before, and will happen again.
What do you mean "time loop"? i know i was born around 2000, now it's 2026 => at least 26 years have passed.
I have a twist for you -- how do you know that time isn't running backwards?
Because shit comes out of my ass and there's no way in hell I'd let it go inside of me
That's the thing. Your memory only works one way. You're incapable of perceiving time running in the opposite direction.
Every time you've pooped both in the past and the future*, it's both going in and coming out, entirely dependent on the frame of reference.
*Yes, I did just refer to the future in the past tense. Because if time's running backwards to how we perceive it, that's actually the past.
The only way to win this game is not to poop. And good luck with that.
The only way to win this game is not to poop. And good luck with that.
I've come further than most men in this regard. And the fact that I'm around to tell the tale also means I'm capable of incredible feats of poop. That duality which defines the universe is visible in all things
I can't imagine I'm the first to ever say this: Those who say they do not poop are full of it.
I don't and it doesn't matter. Now is all there is anyway.
So the loop would "start" and "end" with my birth and death, right?
Wouldn't be so bad.
Eh, not worried about it. It is what it is.
Well, every days ground hog day.
I'm actually pretty confident I'm in a time loop at this point
I'm sure that you would pick up small almost invisible clues that you should please wake up, we miss you.
The last 25000 times nothing happened, so I’m pretty sure nothing will happen tonight.
The government sure has been quiet since this dropped
I don't.
Until I start remembering previous loops I won't care.