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Edit: holy shit I turn my head around for one second and I got 40 replies? THANK YOU ALL :D <3

I just rewatched Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight trilogy and following Bane's and Miranda's story made me realize that I'm a bit saturated in regards to playing as the hero, the protagonist, the "good guy" in PC games. While I love saving the world as much as the next person, I'd love to play as some perhaps self-righteous villain, or antagonist, or simply somebody portrayed in a way that's meant to make the player sympathize with questionable morality or, at the very least, be conflicted about why you suddenly find yourself rooting for them.

I'm mostly looking for story driven open world single player games, but any recommendations are welcome. :)

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Helldivers games, you're the exploitative, fascist empire who creates its own problems.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Mafia series - You play as a murderous mobster

Tropico series - You play as the dictator of a small banana republic

Red Dead Redemption - You're Arthur Morgan, an outlaw who kills for money

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

I loved playing trópico 4 good. Just trying to do the best for my little Sims and never squirreling money away to the swiss bank account.

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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Hmmm a day later and no one mentioned braid.

[–] impudentmortal@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago

The GTA series might be a good example. All of the protagonists of the games commit exceedingly worse crimes as the game progresses but they're made to be sympathetic since they just want success in a world with not much other opportunities.

Games with karma systems may work as well if the bad option isn't overtly evil. I'm thinking games like Dishonored, Fable 3, Undertale, or any Bethesda game.

Anti-hero protagonists like Kratos from God of War, Arthur Morgan from Red Dead 2, and V from Cyberpunk could also somewhat fit the bill.

[–] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Fallout New Vegas

The number of opportunities the game gives you to be an absolute piece of shit is ridiculous.

Here are some examples:

Get the Terrifying Presence perk and literally become evil incarnate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXBC2OYLM0k

Or just level up speech and be mean in general: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STptNbHOXWg

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago
[–] mortalblade@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Azrael@reddthat.com 9 points 4 days ago

This game isn't exactly niche, but Red Dead Redemption II is a really good one. You play as an outlaw on the run from bounty hunters while your gang is falling, their ideals are crumbling, and society no longer wants them. Arthur Morgan is part of a dying way of life.

The game also has an honor system where your status is determined by how evil or good you are. Help strangers = high honor. Rob and murder indiscriminately = walking nightmare

[–] Yesbutnotquite@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Shocked to see no one's suggested Tyranny yet which is an isometric RPG where you specifically play one of the bad guys. Yeah you can make some "good" decisions but ultimately, you're a foot soldier for the bad guys. It's got plenty of that conflict about what's right and wrong that you're looking for too!

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[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 32 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Not even one mention of Prototype. What have the world become.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Prototype. Man. What a fucking BLAST that was. The super powers you had by the end of the game combined with the techniques you could use.

Surfing corpses, eating people alive to clone their appearance. Slicing, smashing, or just tearing apart tanks. Throwing cars. It was just absolute mayhem and I doubt we will see another game quite so unhinged.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Factorio, you literally colonize alien species and pollute their worlds because you feel like it.

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Satisfactory in the same regard as well. At first I felt bad about disrupting the natural landscape. But then I needed more power, and land for my factories. And then more land for more power for more factories on more land. It's a fun cycle.

It's like a different kind of bad guy... a real world kind of bad guy, really.

[–] Lilac@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ig mincecraft in the same vain, if you want to interact with mc villagers in any meaningful/efficient way.

To get cheap villager trades, you can traumabond them to you by repeatedly letting them get killed by zombies and then resurrecting them.

If you want your villagers so be safe, as well as have them all near eachother and sorted after traids, you build a "trading hall" where each villager is trapped in a one by on by two big area where they only have a workstation in front of them as well as a window for you to talk/trade with them. (They would probly die sooner or later if you let them run around the world freely, so building this is kinda a must if you spend a significant time getting the good villager traids, which you kinda have to do if you want good enchantments on your tools cuz all the other options to get them suck compared to villagers).

Villagers are also a good/the only way to automaticaly farm iron or crops, for crops you just trap them in a field and let them work for you. For iron you repeatedly scare them with zombies, so that an iron golem spawns, which you immediately kill in lava, so you can get the iron that it drops.

[–] SolarBoy@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well, maybe not just because you feel like it.
I think the premise is that you crashed on an alien planet and need to build a spaceship to return back home?

The fact that you are destroying the entire ecosystem of the planet to do so is just a slight inconvenience.

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[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Stubbs the zombie

[–] Thrawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago

Tie Fighter. Flying as a pilot for the Empire in Star Wars including flying alongside Vader to save the Emperor. Includes getting pulled into a secret society with a cool glowing force tattoo showing your rank in service to the Emperor.

The game never says your name but I. The old expanded universe books you are basically the Empire version of Wedge.

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Disco Elysium's protagonist is a walking disaster and there are a lot of ways you can play him. Honestly playing him as a totally morally upright professional is one of the harder ways to play. You definitely don't feel like a hero while you're playing

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Honestly playing him as a totally morally upright professional is one of the harder ways to play

Oh so I was just playing it wrong lmao

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Yeah, it's a little spoilery to say but the game tries to force you to learn that lesson. Trying to be a good cop and being straight edge is pretty frustrating. Then once you take a morally gray choice and it advances the plot, you use some drugs to meet a check and there aren't really consequences. Then by the end of the game you're high on 4 different drugs punching children and you understand the point they were making

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[–] observes_depths@aussie.zone 23 points 5 days ago (8 children)

No one's said Infamous yet. Shocking. Well Infamous. You get to choose if you're going to be good or bad and it's super satisfying either way. Dishonered has that same sort of choice, also amazing whichever way you go.

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

minecraft

you show up in a mostly peaceful world and just start destroying it, enslaving villagers and treating a peaceful mobs inhumanly to farm them so you can go kill more mobs that were leaving you alone

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The Knights of the Old Republic SW games. You can join the dark side.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Saints Row games. They're like GTA, but increasingly over the top in their parody. You're the boss of a criminal gang. 2 is still "normal parody" and a bit dated, 3 jumped the shark while doing a kickflip with a jet ski, 4 is even more insane.

Sleeping Dogs you play as a cop, but you can betray the law and side more with the criminals.

Warcraft 3 (old but gold) - the human campaign of the base game gets you from a hopeful young paladin prince into a cold, vengeful psychopath; the following undead campaign is said prince (well, king now) finishing the job of killing everyone and further fucking everything. The expansion has 3 extra campaigns, none with "good guys"

Divinity Original Sin (1 and 2) lets you play as big of an asshole as you'd like. Of the Elder Scrolls games, Morrowind is the one that lets you be the biggest bad guy around (you can still finish the game even if you kill every important npc and break every quest)

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[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 3 days ago

Stray. You're a cat. Cats are evil.

[–] qaeta@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

Tyranny. I mean, you could end up being the good guy, depending on what that means to you, but you start leading an army to conquer part of the world at the behest of Kyros the Overlord. I think I would classify Kyros as a sort of Lawful Evil type. He seems to want to bring peace and order to the world, but chooses to do it through conquest and harshly enforced laws.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Planescape: Torment
Disco Elysium
Prototype
Crackdown

Already mentioned elsewhere but seconding the recommendations: Infamous I and II Bioshock Infinite

[–] Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 18 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Dungeon Keeper.

Destroy all humans.

Spec ops the line.

Braid.

Manhunt.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 5 days ago (5 children)
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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Baldur's Gate 3. Not only can you make an evil character, one of the premades is a special evil character called the Dark Urge and basically forces you into doing things that are often even more fucked up than the basic bad guy stuff.

Most cRPGs are like that, actually. Rogue Trader is another good one. Being a paragon of good is nigh impossible in that one, since you're basically a tyrannical land baron in the WH40k universe where everyone is garbage. 😃

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 6 points 4 days ago

No recommendations, but just wanted to thank you for a real good question.

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Echoing Spec Ops: The Line.

It's no longer available on Steam, but if you can find a way to play it then you should. Probably the most necessary game about war at the moment.

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You can do some pretty evil shit in Baldur's Gate 3. Definitely makes you question your morals. The Dark Urge player character story is pretty messed up.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Well there's always Grand Theft Auto.

[–] PodPerson@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 days ago

Never tried this, but you could play New Vegas with the Legion.

[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well, I may as well keep plugging my current obsession, Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader. It's a CRPG somewhere between BG3 and XCOM in gameplay, with a grimdark-flavored splash of Mass Effect.

You have 3 "convictions" that many lot of your decisions fall under. Iconoclast is kind of your standard good guy, but maybe somewhat naive trying to be that good guy in the Warhammer verse. But more relevant to you are Dogmatic and Heretic.

Heretic is pretty much evil as far as I can tell. Chaos worship and slaughter for power. Dogmatic is more like Judge Dredd, maybe? You make some harsh fucking decisions as dogmatic, like liquefying a few thousand people to power a computer you need to use, but you are doing it for what your character truly believes is the greater good of the Imperium.

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous, Owlcat's previous game, has some baddie paths too. You're still fighting demons, but it's more of an evil vs evil in some cases. Especially Lich or Swarm.

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[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

Came back to say Fable and Fable II are peak evil path RPGs.

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 11 points 5 days ago
[–] owsei@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

RimWorld RTS, survival, colony builder. Survive, stranded, on a hostile planet filled with pirates, ancient mechanoids and giant killer bugs.

You can play however you wish. I always end up playing as drugged-up organ-harvesting slave owners.

There is a very detailed simulation of the human body, with each organ having it's own scars, damages and conditions, all affecting each other. There are also developed systems for drugs, combat, diseases, mood and mental breakdowns.

Honestly it's simpler sci-fi Dwarf Fortress

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Kinda surprised nobody has mentioned Metal Gear Solid V and Peace Walker.

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 days ago

shadows of forbidden gods. the story is kind of what you make it, but you are basically the dark lord in world similar to many fantasy novels. It got multiple evil beings too and each has different playstyle.

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