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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The difference is that the microwave is not as nearly as cancerous.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think energy consumption matters to most people. I still can't believe the whole planet is "on board" with using a metal box that weighs around a ton, or much more, fill it with fossil fuel, and burn it to move that heavy box and generally a single person everywhere they go. Then they complain about the price of the fuel that is slowly choking the environment they need to drink, eat and live. But we can't say anything bad against cars. Just buy an electric car because it fixes all the problems if you ignore wasted energy, microplastic pollution, noise pollution, the impact of parking, the millions of dead humans every year, and the billion animals considered roadkill every year. There is no more gas problem!

So, I wish this would make some people realize how power hungry and destructive AI can be, but I'm pretty sure most don't give a fuck because "it can be useful", just like cars. So far I've read people defending it saying power usage and efficiency will improve with time. Or that AI will find a tech solution to the AI problem.

It will do the same as the car industry. People will begin to use it, find it some use despite its flaws, and defend it tooth and nails while it's bringing us closer to environmental doom. You will consoom.

[–] Starski@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago

It's kind of hard for me to criticize cars when without one I wouldn't have a job, food, clothes, or really anything of the sort. Absolutely zero thought put into public transportation where I live, and the only bike lanes are about an hour bike ride away, with my job being the same distance. I'm just so tired boss.

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

People will start caring when the energy costs start to spike up. And with our little energy crisis looming; it is a good time to tell them how much of their electricity bill is subsidizing idiots like Sam Altman and Dario Amodei.

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Techbro bots: "this is the same energy wasted in: [shit that's actually fun or useful] As if AI infrastructure isn't built ON TOP of existing infrastructure and actively leeching off it or lobbying to de-regulate energy to make it even mor wasteful.

[–] hesh@quokk.au 135 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As an American I appreciate how they included both metric (Joules) and imperial (hours running a microwave) measurements

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Anyhow it would be running a microwave at 944 watt for an hour 😁

[–] towerful@programming.dev 28 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I only know how long bald eagles burn for.
How do I convert microwave hours to bald eagle burn time (in number of football games including all dead ball times and the halftime shows)?

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[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have a new Retirement plan.

  1. Buy a gun
  2. Shoot it at datacenters.
  3. Eat some chips or something
[–] vane@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

hell yeah, road trip to all the data centers! now thats a retirement!

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Truly every time period of human civilization had something in it that would make future generations shake their heads in disbelief.

"How could they use gigawatthours for crypto farms and useless AI applications while fully aware of a climate crisis caused by fossil fuels?", a student might ask his history teacher some day. "Because they were dumb as fuck.", the teacher might answer.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Did you see the stockarket?!

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

I can’t wait until the terror 2.0 when we destroy it

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

3.4 giga joules! Great Scott!

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Mega, not Giga. It's more of medium sized Scott.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

metric scott or imperial scott

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Who the hell measures energy in joules?

That's a little under 1kWh. Or playing your gaming PC for 3 hours.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 points 59 minutes ago

It's the international system unit of energy. So a lot of people.

Who the hell measures energy in joules?

i do

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 hours ago

3 hours running completely flat out that is, which does happen with some games.

Even in those cases the gaming PC is producing roughly 2160x the amount of 'content' per unit of power. Though I guess some (not me) might argue that 5 seconds worth of AI generated cats fighting politicians have more 'worth' than some 5 second spans of gameplay.

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Who the hell measures energy in Wh ? I always convert back to Joules, Watt Hours don't make any sense.

kWh is for practical use, Joules is for physics and because it's universal among all the energy units

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I know right, it's electron volts or nothing, got to get back to basics

coulomb volts is better for practical uses though

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'd much prefer to pay an artist to be using their PC for three hours than a corporation

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Also those 3 hours count as "practicing."

Imagine if we counted "training" in this energy cost.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 day ago

Or ~100 hours of my laptop doing simple tasks.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

They definitely need to make measures like this widely available.

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