Television

Of course the internet and social media amplifies the critics. But I hate the idea of blaming a not so good series on the internet and the fans. Because the reverse could also happen. And it doesn't.

Maybe I'm not a fan because I only liked TNG, DS9, VOY and some of ENT, while not really liking much of the new Kurtzman universe/timeline. I skipped DIS as I don't think it's my thing. And I skipped PIC too. Still, I was convinced to try SNW on lemmy, and I liked much of it. Maybe as much as ENT. I also loved LD before it got cancelled. Even with all the usual toxicity of some fans, some positive comments and videos were able to sway me into trying them and liking them.

However, as much as I agree that some "fans" are toxic, other fans have made very detailed and logical videos about how this most recent series is bad as Star Trek. The ratio of bad reviews from pretty much all the spectrum of fans kind of confirms this, and I'm sick of seeing a lot of the past actors act like they know exactly what Star Trek is, should be, what fans should like, and if they don't like it, it's their fault and the internet's fault.

“It was literally the biggest Star Trek set ever,”

It's not because it's litterally the biggest set ever that it makes it good Star Trek. And it's not because he directed an episode that the writing will be better.

As we can see with the series Picard, and to an extent the movie Nemesis, sometimes actors are not exactly the best references for the canon of what they are acting. The dune buggy in Nemesis was Steward's idea. As is a big part of the concept behind the Picard series. And having actors like Kate Mulgrew and Robert Picardo defending this and even going against some fans like me, is hurtful too. Enough so that I'm willingly distancing myself from social media and stuff related to Star Trek now. It pains me to see them push something that has lost most of its soul and blame the fans.

It's not for me but neither was Discovery. That being said, there were folks that liked those shows and that's great. I don't have a problem with new Trek, SNW and Lower Decks are more my speed.

Fandom is such a toxic concept nowadays.

Do I personally like the show? No. But it's not for me. I'm old. It's a new world with new demographics to cater to and new viewers to appeal to.

So it's perfectly okay that it's not for me. It's not as though my trek has vanished. It's still there whenever I want to watch it. My trek is literally everywhere. Pluto TV, Paramount Plus, or the crap-tonne of DVD's I've collected over the years.

Society has changed, writing styles have changed, audiences have changed. Get over it, people. How come people can't not watch something while shutting the fuck up about it? Why does your dislike of a property give you the right to make other people's lives miserable.

Self-proclaimed Star Trek fans gatekeeping the universe so hard that they hurt Jonathan Frakes makes me irrationally angry.

He's one of the few genuinely good ones. Don't be like that.

I think the problem is that the internet is more prevalent and mainstream than back then. Like newsgroups could be downright toxic, but the majority of fans didn't see them.

When I was watching TNG, it was either at my dads house watching it on television or discussing it with my friends in school.

Fuck conservatives.

Starfleet Academy is a fucking insult to all star trek fans and anyone who might want to watch a show.
Under-age drinking?
Everyone's a moron?
Klingons are pansies?

Frakes is so completely out-of-touch and absolutely full of himself. Fucking rich entitled actors -- goddamn common clay.

I liked the last episode more than any other in the season, despite it being maybe the least Star Trek one?

Previous one was ridiculous. Oh, these "kids" are traumatised by a bad experience? Let's fix that with theatre! All together, 'cause of course everyone can heal with the same "therapy".

I still hope this series can turn out to be good, after all TNG itself didn't start out great. But it seems they want to bash you over the head with emotions and ideas, rather than make you feel and develop them yourself.

I hadn’t even heard of this till now.

Is it better than Discovery?