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[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Why would I ever even have bought a ChatGPT subscription when there were free ways to access LLMs that were just as good?

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

I have a gpu, I downloaded some models, played a little, got bored very fast.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's a fun toy that's definitely not worth any money (at present, possibly forever).

In all fairness, recently duck.ai has been adding a "settings" portion to help you prompt the LLM to get much better results, but again, that costs $0 to use. The couple times I've used its "tech support" setting, it's been fairly helpful, but I wouldn't trust it on anything serious (due to how often LLMs hallucinate).

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 minutes ago

I've tried it a few times for help with technical tasks just outside of my knowledge. It was most useful when giving me bad ideas that I argued against and, in the process, figured out better solutions.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 34 minutes ago

Let's pop that bubble!

[–] durably465@lemmy.ml 1 points 37 minutes ago

Better than that leave GAFAM ecosystem.

Degoogle, demicroslop, deamazon, etc...

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 73 points 4 hours ago (8 children)

My only regret is I never had a chatgpt subscription in the first place to cancel.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 45 points 4 hours ago

That's a win, not a regret 👍

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

Me too. Sorry guys. The only thing I could cancel is my Ollama free tier account but i don't think that's going to make much of an impact.

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[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I think that most LLM chatbots UIs are insufferable.

IMHO, UX-wise Mistral's LeChat is the best: fast, with enter key sending the prompt on edit, the possibility to delete prompts and their responses from a convo, and an unobtrusive branching in-line CTA.

And best of all, it doesn't do the stupid "typing".

With billions more at their disposal, I am surprised American companies couldn't do better.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 34 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (6 children)

I'm in postgrad study at the moment and the amount of university students that rely on ChatGPT for 80%+ of their assignment/project work has really shaken my trust in the current gen coming out of higher education.

This is after the unit lecturers have each belaboured the point that GenAI must be 'used responsibly and with care to triple-check any output is valid and understood - and that any confirmed plagiarism or hallucinated references are an 'instant zero' on assignments.

They don't care. It's easier than reading textbooks and thinking.

(All this to say - I don't think #QuitChatGPT will have any affect on those using it regularly, regardless of their morals)

[–] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The only proper use i found for AI is making small interactive quiz of something i'm trying to memorise. I've seen college/uni classes and chatgpt is everywhere. I had quite a few moment of reckoning witht that fact that this is the norm.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

I was using Notability and it let me have a preview of that, and I tried it on a ~40+ page reading I had for class. I feel like it worked well at picking out trivia (‘what is the definition of x’, ‘who did this thing’, etc), but it felt pretty shallow. If you’re preparing for a multiple choice quiz or refamiliarizing yourself with something then I’d say it’s probably okay, but if you’re studying for the essay portion of a test it’s not enough.

Absolutely, and the essay portion of any uni course is not even feasable for the average llm user, if they abuse that. And if I had to do this side study with every thing i do i'd go mental.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 9 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

This is disheartening to hear. Why would you pay $60k-$100k in tuition alone only to waste the paid opportunity?

It’s like buying a new Toyota Tacoma, slashing the tires, draining the radiator, and then taking it out for a spin and expecting a quality drive.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Sure is disheartening and I don't much understand it beyond 'path of least resistance'. I'm not in the US though, I'm in Australia and our university fees are far lower for citizens.

I'll add that it's not universal, and I haven't met nor worked with all the students in my course as there's hundreds. But so far in my experience it's the international students (China, Malaysia, Singapore, India, Pakistan, Philippines) that have GenAI most ingrained in their workflows - its just presumed by them that everyone is using ChatGPT for their work in assignments. Conversely, I have worked with a German international student who wants very little to do with GenAI (like myself).

Worth mentioning that the international students pay 'full fees' for the courses, no government assistance like citizens - that means they pay 5-6 times as much for their courses, so I would have thought they'd have additional motivation to get value from their time studying, but that doesn't seem to be the reality of the situation.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

I swear I don't understand college students who work so hard not to learn.

It's like they want to get as little education for their money as possible.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 hours ago

The purpose of college today isn't to learn, it's to get a degree.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Because being more intelligent than before isn't the point anymore. It's to get a $50k certificate that says you can do jobs unrelated to what you studied. It's shows that you are breakable and thus likely to be a good worker.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

a $50k certificate

Ah, the good old days.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I mean you can probably still pull of a State University at $50k a year, right? I graduated highschool in 2010 so my data is definitely out of date but how much can a public school cost!?

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

According to US News & World Report, the national average cost of in-state tuition is $12,436 and the national average cost of out-of-state tuition is $29,815. So it sure is possible (on average), but just barely. I also randomly checked Florida State University and their tuition is $6,517 for in-state and $21,683 for out-of-state students so it's a relative bargain.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Unless you’re in college for STEM, every degree is just a piece of paper with very little educational value behind it. You start learning after the degree, once you get the job that you need the degree to get.

[–] aburrito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago
[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago

College used to be optional. Most people didn't go, you went there because you wanted to learn, or you wanted to go into a particular field that required higher knowledge.

Now, college is just a paywall that gets in the way of having a normal job that can pay you an ok amount of money if you're lucky. This is especially true now for when it comes to the prerequisites. Kids aren't there for knowledge. It's so they can get a job. No one cares about those college level English courses being forced on them when they're going to end up as middle management at an insurance agency. Especially now, when their PC will tell them their grammar sucks before they send out that email.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Because they're not going to college to learn, they're going to get a degree. The prevailing mentality is "I'm paying for this so that I can go through the motions and graduate so that I'll meet the minimum qualifications for an entry level position."

It's a result of the commodification of education: treating universities like a business rather than as centers of learning. Everything's transactory.

Professors are afraid to fail students because the administration wants the best retention ratings, and cause bad reviews might mean they lose their jobs.

Oh, and because expecting college students to actually learn something is elitist, apparently...

Don't get caught forming coherent thoughts in complete sentences with proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation. Someone might accuse you of being petite bourgeois and get your professor fired for playing favorites...

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

This doesn’t match with my experience at a state school at all, lol. I get whether I put a period before or after my citation picked apart. Is this how students at private schools get treated?

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 27 minutes ago

I don't know, I went to a community college. I don't know what grades other people got on their essays, but sometimes we did peer revisions and I saw the quality of other people's writing. They called me racist and elitist if I made too many grammar corrections, so I can only imagine what they said about the professor when they get a bad grade because I stopped correcting their grammar during proofreading.

There's also this thing that sometimes happens where the professor adjusts for privilege in grading. The effect is that I would get a B+ or an A- for having a couple typos, but someone who can barely spell or formulate a complete sentence might get the same grade as me or even better.

And if I get an A in the class or on a test I have to keep it a secret or all my classmates will hate me and claim it was because of white supremacy or some shit.

[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It’s gonna be like when cell phones got popular and suddenly no one could remember anyone’s phone number anymore, but this time it will be that they can’t remember anything

[–] Janx@piefed.social 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think my brother's has like, a 6 in it? Maybe an ampersand...?

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago

"Was there a 'niner' in there? Were you calling from a walkie-talkie?"

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

When I was in college, I did some TA work helping to run labs. This particular lab was a general chemistry lab for the health care track, nurses, doctors, etc. This girl walks up to me, deadpan, and asks "What does 'M-L' mean?" She was asking what milliliter meant. I shit you not, that has scared me about ever going to a hospital for anything more serious than a cold.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Lol yes that is worrying. She could have just been having a brainfart though.. Everyone has those sometimes.

I've been to hospital quite a bit (visiting and assisting people mostly) and the standards have been very high for nurses, doctors, technicians etc. I hope that can comfort you somewhat.

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[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Too late. They have contracts with the Pentagon now and have officially achieved Military Industrial Complex status. You no longer get to vote with your wallet because your tax dollars will go to them whether you like it or not. The mass surveillance tools they provide are too valuable to let them fail.

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

If you have or had a ChatGPT subscription you’re part of the problem too

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If you ever bought a consumer product brought forth by capitalism you are also a part of the problem.

But that doesn’t mean individuals can’t learn and try to be better themselves.

All of humanity will have to work to better ourselves if we want a future for our species.

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

"ChatGPT" subscription? What are you talking about?

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Strike it down! Slaythe beast!

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 6 points 3 hours ago

Wait, people were paying for this shit?

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