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me, my best friend, her husband, and our mutual friends all want to charter a nonprofit llc charity organization whose mission is to aid individuals who do not have stable housing and, through this organization because corporations have more rights than people in this hellscape nightmare world, purchase this particular gorgeous 18 acre plot of land in rural [REDACTED STATE]. there, we shall found our Gay Furry Commune, sharing our roof and walls with those who lack, non-transactionally, although persons who are lgbtq etc we intend to prioritize for assistance--specifically to help them EVACUATE THE UNITED STATES. Or, if they manage to build up the gumption and elbow grease, to metastasize into a gay furry commune branch of their own, provided we can help them locate an available land plot, guide them through the organizational setup, and coordinate the assets.
Housing is so absurdly expensive that we figure even a 'donate what you can' (and if you have nothing to give then that is okay) model that brutally undercuts the market by 90% on average will still be enough to balance the nonprofit's ledger or even expand its mission. Because It's not that a nonprofit can't 'make money'--it's that it can't keep money. The funds gathered via donation etc must be earmarked for the work. An organization still has bills to pay and has to be able to hire contractors for specialized work on occasion, they have to have a budget for the pursuit of projects.
Landlords get to keep their ill gotten gains. This organization does not. Its books are required to be transparent, its funds are required to be accounted for, with absolutely no "payouts" to "investors".
Not that it sounds like you or your friends would, but plenty of non-profits still manage to funnel absurd amounts of money to their owners. So you may want to lean less on saying it's not possible because of non-profit, but instead not possible due to how you'd run it.
Notably, OpenAI was originally non-profit.
Okay--yes, true, real, absolutely accurate; there is definitely phrasing better than what I used to describe what we want to do. It would also be nice to not be starving to death while doing this work, but my mindset is rather fixated on reinforcing beyond question that this isn't for anyone to get rich and that we intend to take all possible measures against that kind of exploitative shit. One thing in particular that is objectively better than "a very comfortable life for me" is "a fairly comfortable life for a whole lot of people".
As some Ontario advice. Look for an unorganized township, otherwise the cost of permits will make it unattainable.
If you ever join a cult or commune, ask about the toilet situation first
When I was little my family got invited to join this rich hippy's commune, we got to see the "plans" ahead of time, and noticed that every bathroom had multiple toilets facing each other with no privacy barriers, the organizer also kept boasting about how they would use their sewage to fertilize the gardens.
I'm sure this all creates a lot more questions than anything else, but the short answer is no, my family wanted nothing to do with that kook's crazy caca cult compound when they were making their own.
they would use their sewage to fertilize the gardens.
as im sure youre aware: absolutely terrible idea, anyone says this to you: run.
You have to maintain human waste at a 10:1 poop:notpoop mixture, and then a 3:1 poop-mixture:greenery ratio at 135°F and 6.5pH for at least 30 days with regular turning and mixing before you can use it.
I would love that. I have genuinely talked about that to my fellas but unfortunately we are too broke to purchase a plot of land, let alone build a house on it
Who leaked my plans?
There is a monastery in my city, right in the centre. The youngest nun is over 80 something. I was thinking, if the women from our group of friends would join them, soon those nuns would die and we would have this massive building in the city centre all for ourselves to live, party, build community workshops etc. We would basically steal the infrastructure from the church. Also we would destroy the bells and sell the copper, so the entire surroundings would never have to endure this horrible sound anymore.
But whenever I present the women in my group with my idea they just launch. Kinda understandable, I wouldn't want to pretend and live as a nun for a few years, or even a day myself.
Literally yesterday I was thinking about joining a church with friends for a takeover like that!
Seems to be working for the right wing. Replace 'church' with 'government office' and 'nun' with 'elected officials'.
Well, they use the church and their religion as an argument for all the things they want and do.
Even though everything they want and do would send them immediately to the lowest levels of hell, if their fairytale actually existed.
I think South Park did an amazing job explaining this in their latest season(s).
I tried commune life, would not recommend.
I'd suggest an RV park/tiny house neighborhood, that's the best way to get something that could meet most people's needs and might actually be stable and sustainable. And have a community garden.
People today watching old SNL sketches: "You know what? I actually do want to live in a van down by the river."
Let’s play Wild Girls! 🐕🐩
I'd love to do this, I need to connect with more people.
If you are into this there is a cool newsletter called “Supernuclear” that you should look up
Started checking it out, this is awesome, Thanks! I've had trouble digging up resources for this kinda stuff in the past.
Or a commune in the city itself!
Cities are communes.
I want to so bad. Unfortunately any plot of land that's worthwhile is too expensive
You squat
where I live all the large rural plots and farmland has been purchased by big corpos.
That’s why you team up
Everyone I know to do it with is broke too
I hear there's a guy starting a commune in Honduras.
I feel bad buying up land in the third world, feels like taking it out from under them. if I'm forced out of the US then I suppose then it's ok
I found my people, just commune in the city for me personally
I want a plot of land but no community. thanks
Best I can offer is a community, and no land
I have no idea why people romanticize the countryside. You wanna work at a farm? Go ahead without me
Not saying it's easy, but I think in some ways, it's quite a bit more fulfilling with the effort to payoff ratio. Plus, I assume it might work in a pleasant way if one actually has a community where people are willing to help out and do things together
It's a very romantic view. Places like that already exist and are called farming villages. There's a good reason most people leave it for the cities.
Yeah, true. It certainly is a romantic view. But I don't know, the mind yearns for an escape from the rat race in this capitalistic system
I work in tech and all I want to do is work on a farm instead. Someday.
Thats all my family wants too. I could do without all social media and connectivity. Just let me and my wife have a little farm where we make bread and I make jewelry and we can trade eggs and produce for shoes and gloves. Im really not asking for much.
Maybe you should start by keeping a few plants alive for a year or so.
You can buy a large plot of land by the city.
Can you? Because in many places areas adjacent to cities have been turned into car-centric suburbs
The wealthiest people I know live on big plots of land just outside of town. They pay less than half the property tax, have more than double the land you would in the city at the same price, and it's only a couple minute drive into the city for ammenities