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What distinguishes zebras from horses is that zebras live in anonymous herds. That is, they like to clump together to ward off predators, but they don’t know or like each other. They are not a uniform group with a leader. Horses on the other hand do have authorities and followers among them. And humans can hijack the role of the leader.
zebras live in anonymous herds. That is, they like to clump together to ward off predators, but they don’t know or like each other.
Zebra's don't like anyone, and they're not afraid to show it. Repeatedly.
And donkeys like only one person and will absolutely fuck up anyone or anything that tries to hurt that person or the donkey itself.
What distinguishes zebras from horses is that zebras live in anonymous herds.
says a lot about 4chan, the penny arcade GIFT theory, etc
With how Facebook forces real names, the idea that being anonymous has any influence where or not someone is a fuckwad had been debunked.
It's not the anonimity that makes people fuckwads. It's the lack of immediate consequences. A fuckwad won't get a punch in the face for what they say on facebook, hence they feel they can say anything and be a fuckwad.
"Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it", Mike Tyson
Regardless of how you feel about Tyson, Truth is Truth.
This makes me wonder... How much of what he says is just conjecture? Do we ACTUALLY know with good certainty that zebras can't be domesticated due to their nature? Or is it just a hypothesis/theory that has reached widespread popularity?
I have heard that zebras (along with other African animals) can't be domesticated because they have evolved to live among humans, when we were still man-apes. But that maybe that's just conjecture too.
Note how he have no sources in his video or description. And his comparison to chickens, cows, sheep and cats don't seem to make much sense. The relation between humans and chickens/cows/sheep is markedly different from that of horses. Do wild fowl really have family structures? Cats don't yet they are still docile among humans.
Edit: even if we really can't do we know the reason why?
Yes, people have tried to domesticate zebras before and they're just too ornery.
But what if we spent longer time doing it? Like centuries, like with most other domesticated animals.
I'm not sure why you've been downvoted because you absolutely could domesticate them given sufficient time and consistent selective breeding. You could turn them into crabs if you wanted to. The trouble is that they don't have a very social disposition, so no one is motivated to dedicating their entire bloodline to the project. Most domestication happened kind of on accident as we developed symbiotic or exploitative relationships with various species.
+1 for carcinization reference
Domesticated animals generally start out already being somewhat agreeable. Like dogs hung around us, and work in a pack mentality, horses same thing, cats same thing. That's why we could domesticate racoons or some rodents if we wanted to.
Zebras are assholes and hate everyone
Might take more than centuries, but yes.
We have a rescue dog from Korea as well as some neighbours ( not a standard breed, but a Korean Village dog, they basically live alongside humans as a breed but developed their own way). They are much different than "normal" dogs. They are more like cats. Their way on their terms. Like other dogs, don't enjoy humans much. So even though they are domesticated, they still show the old lineage of being independent. My dogs idea of a good time is never chasing a stick or ball, but finding the highest vantage point at a park and watching everyone. A carryover from watching the plains from the hillside, or something.
The Cow says: Moo!
The Horse says: Neigh!
The Zebra says: I ain't nobody's bitch!
Horse-shaped, but definitely not a horse.
Punk horse, running IDK chimpanzee firmware?
“Motherfucker, do you see the way I look?! Shit ain’t for the insta, that’s for sure. I’m quite visible to you so you have a long enough time to be getting far the fuck away from me.”
I thought the stripes were actually camouflage and they’re just monochromatic because the things they’re hiding from have poor color vision.
Latest theory I heard was:
A 2014 study found a correlation between striping and overlap with horse and tsetse fly populations and activity. Other studies have found that zebras are rarely targeted by these insect species. Caro and colleagues (2019) studied captive zebras and horses and observed that neither could deter flies from a distance, but zebra stripes kept flies from landing, both on zebras and horses dressed in zebra print coats. […] White or light stripes painted on dark bodies have also been found to reduce fly irritations in both cattle and humans.
brb getting a full body tattoo
The truth is we don't actually know because the zebras don't want us to:
So, the question why zebras have stripes have proven very difficult and not without risks – Stephen Cobb has been bitten in the arm and admitted to hospital twice. Despite the extra vigour of recent work, the answer remains inconclusive.
There's some accounts throughout history, but humans generally leave them alone. They're aggressive creatures surrounded by even more aggressive killing machines. So it stands to reason that an animal in that environment would be pretty tough to tame.
It has to do with social structures from what I read a while ago.
Horses have a hierarchical structure and zebras don't.
What you don't spot on that picture is the front "zebra" in the back, is a painted horse. Apparently that helped the zebras remain more calm
Okay, but what about the moose?
Moose can't ride zebras either
Brother, a moose can ride whatever it damn well pleases. But I'd rather not get into the personal stuff, if you don't mind.
Møøse bites kan be pretti nasti
My grandmother knew a guy who raised a couple moose and used them to plow his fields
Other zebras: good luck with that, bye!
I honestly wonder if we actually COULD domesticate zebras but it would taking centuries or millennia. Just like other domesticated species.
No. Zebras don't have a herd hierarchy we can exploit. With horses you pick out the lead horse, tame it and boom, the whole herd follows you.
With zebras you get one zebra, if you're very lucky. More likely you'll get kicked and bitten.
Like African wild cats! You'd just get some hell monster that doesn't do what it's told and attacks you at random.
In the 1980s, in Tijuana, tourist kids could ride horses painted like zebras.
Yeah they survive for a reason. They’re very tough.
