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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

They also have a RSS feed, that's how I follow them

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If that is the case, is chardet 7.0.0 a derivative work of chardet, or is it a public domain LLM work? The whole LLM project is fraught with questions like these

I think the reimplementation stuff is a separate question because the argument for it working looks a lot stronger, and because it doesn't have anything to do with the source material having LLM output in it. Also if this method holds as legally valid, it's going to be easier to just do that than justify copying code directly (which would probably have to only be copies of the explicitly generated parts of the code, requiring figuring out how to replace the rest), which means it won't matter whether some portion of it was generated. I don't see much reason to think that a purist approach to accepting LLM code will offer any meaningful protection.

I’m mostly just playing along with your thought experiment. As I said, we know that projects are already accepting LLM code into projects that are nominally copyleft.

So what though? If they aren't entirely generated, you can't make a full fork, and why would a partial fork be useful? If it isn't disclosed what parts are AI, you can't even do that without risking breaking the law.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

but if they instead say that they copied the work into their LLM and produced a copy without protections (as chardet has done), the courts might be less willing to afford the project copyright protections if the project itself was making use of the same copyright stripping technology to strip others’ work to claim protections over copied work.

ianal but does it even work like that? Is there any specific reason to think it does? I don't believe you really get credit for purity and fairness vibes in the legal system. Same goes for the idea that code where it is ambiguous whether it is AI output could be considered public domain, seems kind of implausible, is there actually any reason to think the law works that way? If it did, then any copyrighted work not accompanied by proof of human authorship would be at risk, uncharacteristic for a system focused on giving big copyright holders what they want without trouble.

the only code that may ultimately be protected is closed source code - you can’t copy it if you don’t have the source.

There is no way, leaks happen, big tech companies have massive influence, a situation where their code falls into the public domain as soon as the public gets their hands on it just isn't realistic. I feel suspicious that many of these concerns are coming from a place of not wanting LLM code in open source projects for other reasons, rather than the existence of a strong legal case that it represents a real and serious threat to copyleft licensing.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)

AI code damages copyleft projects no matter what - we know that some projects are already accepting AI generated code, and they don’t ask you to hide it - it is all in the open.

I don't see how that follows or contradicts what I'm saying though. They could hide it, easily. Even if they don't hide it, how useful would it really ever be to only use the portions of the codebase that have been labelled as having been AI generated? Can one even rely on those labels? Making use of the non-copyrightability of AI output to copy code in otherwise unauthorized ways does not seem like a straightforward or legally safe thing to do. That's especially the case because high profile proprietary software projects also make heavy use of AI, it doesn't seem likely the courts will support a legal precedent that strips those projects of copyright and allow anyone to use them for whatever. So basically I'm not at all convinced about the idea that AI code damages copyleft projects, it seems unlikely to be a problem in practice.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of it is the tens of billions of dollars worth of Bitcoin they own, that have never been moved, and are assumed by the market to be lost.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 17 hours ago

Most anti-BDS laws have taken one of two forms: contract-focused laws requiring government contractors to promise that they are not boycotting Israel; and investment-focused laws, mandating public investment funds to avoid entities boycotting Israel.

That's because it includes both of these in the category. The discrepancy is probably because the OP image slightly misrepresents what the map is saying.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

The only portions of the work that can be copyrighted are the actual creative work the person has put into the work.

Ok, but it's not like everyone is documenting exactly which parts are generated, curated, or human written.

Maintainers cannot prevent the LLM code from being incorporated into closed source projects without reciprocity

Say someone incorporates GPL code without attribution, and gets sued for doing so. They try to make the argument in court that the source material they used is not copyrighted, because of AI. Won't they have to prove that the parts they used were actually AI output for this defense to work? It isn't like people are going around ignoring the copyright on things in general if they look like they were probably generated with AI, that isn't enough to be safe from prosecution. It seems like preventing this loophole from being used would be as simple as keeping it ambiguous and not allowing submissions that positively affirm being entirely AI generated.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 119 points 1 day ago (18 children)

That's great but I've been seeing articles like this for decades so I'll believe it when there's an actual working product you can actually get

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well ok my mistake, it's just that literally all the command line text editors I've tried, the mouse does nothing by default and people act like you're not supposed to use it, it's just not a core part of how the software is designed to be used

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

IMO the term "hallucinogenic" undersells what psychedelics do in some ways. There is an interpretative layer of abstraction that naturally builds up between you and what you are perceiving. This is useful because it lets you make assumptions about and mostly ignore objects that you know are not necessary to pay attention to, and not be overwhelmed by the experience of being actively aware of all their details, but it also prevents us from considering and experiencing what is behind that layer of preconception.

Obviously there's also a lot of other things our brains do that is interpretive or corrective, but it's really remarkable to be able to see the world without that one in particular, which is one of the more striking effects of those drugs, and it happens on doses lower than the ones that produce especially vivid hallucinations.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

Something supernatural coming to kill me, so I can't explain anything to get help, and when I'm dead everyone thinks I died for some other reason.

 

For example, in college I got a bad grade on a history exam.

The biggest part of why I got a bad grade was mixing up two similar sounding words in an essay question, which I vaguely remembered the professor might have made a big deal about not making that particular mistake in a class one time, but I couldn't remember the answer to the question if the question was using the word I thought it was, so I chose to write the answer as if the essay question had used the other word (I think it might have been about the British vs French versions of Parliament, something like that). This essay question was one of a set that you were free to choose from, as long as you answered a specified number of questions. Because I was pretty sure my answer to the first question was wrong, later in the exam I came back to this essay section and managed to answer enough other questions that I was one over the number that had actually been requested. I figured if it happened to be right it could only help my grade, so I left it there rather than crossing it out, and left a brief explanation as a footnote, requesting that that answer be discarded if only the specified smaller number of answers could be factored into the score.

As it turned out, that answer was marked wrong, and I got a pretty bad grade overall on the exam. The marked exam had no visible points accounting, so I didn't know how the grade was being calculated. I thought it seemed unfair that my footnote hadn't been considered, so I went to office hours to ask for a better grade on that basis. I got one, and I was surprised by how much, a full letter grade higher, just for that one question being discounted. This was actually upsetting to me though, I wanted to complain, because that essay section was just one part of a larger exam, and it seemed like that meant that making this one particular word mixup mistake the professor had a pet peeve about gets people marked down a full letter grade, and so you are penalized heavily from following the exam advice everyone gets drilled into them to always prefer putting an uncertain answer to not answering. Also the idea that he was probably just eyeballing the grades and there was no per question points accounting. It just seemed very unfair. But I kept my complaints to myself, since I had already gotten the best outcome I could hope for from that meeting and didn't want him to change his mind. I wonder if it was worth it though, since these events are now part of a rotation of things I sometimes spontaneously think about and feel a little indignation and imagine things I could have said instead, even though it was years ago and is irrelevant to my life now, and even though I think past me was likely taking grades too seriously.

Is that weird? I'd like to hear about it if other people also have little pointless grudges that they can't let go.

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https://www.devilscandycomic.com/comic/ch20p24

I feel like this is a pretty good "in media res" page

 

I was watching this video of a live chicken trapped on a moving truck and thought it was strange that it's not possible to say anything to them even when circumstances might warrant it. All we got is honking and waving. There could be a touchscreen interface with a map of nearby vehicles. It could be voice controllable or the passenger could do it for safety.

 

While alternative app stores operate independently and are required by EU law, Apple is still in a position to exert some control. This became apparent a few weeks ago, when iTorrent users suddenly ran into trouble when installing the app.

Thought this was an interesting story, since it's pretty analagous to the recent Android situation, with third party app stores being enabled to some extent, but the company retaining ultimate censorship power.

 

The Block BEARD bill broadly applies to service providers as defined in section 512(k)(1)(A) of the DMCA. This is a broad definition that applies to residential ISPs, but also to search engines, social media platforms, and DNS resolvers.

Service providers with fewer than 50,000 subscribers are explicitly excluded

 

I can't believe the main antagonist was

spoilerEvil Aslan the Throat Goat

 
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So I was reading this post and decided to make the tool described, as a userscript (I credit ChatGPT with doing most of the work, which went pretty quickly). To use it, install a compatible userscript browser extension such as https://violentmonkey.github.io/ , then press install on the linked page. Reddit comments should now have a 'copy-context' button that will put the comment chain in your clipboard. I made it for old.reddit so probably won't work with the redesign. Another limitation is that it will only work to copy what is on the current page, so if the comment chain is too deep it's not going to get all of it.

Any feedback is welcome. Also if someone who can read javascript wants to give it a once-over and confirm for people that it isn't malicious that would be cool too.

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