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I heard my parents get this from their favorite right-wing talk show host. Apparently, not just any form of patriotism, but US patriotism in particular is "apolitical", and thus there is no issue with supporting it.

Note that these are the same people who will insist that the media is getting taken over by malicious people promoting a "woke" agenda but praise commercials which glorify the United States and its supposed values.

It goes without saying that being a patriot for the United States out of all other countries is political, especially given the current regime. Being a "patriot" who supports the establishment in the US is no different from being the same in Nazi Germany.

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[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Kinda curious why you chose that username and pfp....

This you? https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Topic:X5jt5fmceilpdixv

Edit: looked back at your opening post and yeah alright I am willing to give benefit of the doubt. I will say it's really funny to call yourself an anti-revisionist MLM at 15 years old. Kid your brain is still forming you're gonna be doing a whole lot of revising your views for a long time. Stay humble and get to work and stop worrying about these sorts of labels. Read the theory do the work and be kind and nobody will give a shit who you were as a dumb teenager.

[–] Wisconcom@hexbear.net 2 points 10 hours ago

Thank you. I made a lot of mistakes as an adolescent.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 6 points 17 hours ago

Nationalism is part of every liberalism

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 15 points 23 hours ago

This is why I start all political discussions with my mother with "Stalin shouldn't have stopped at Berlin" and then end them with "at least I didn't vote for a pedophile scam artist three times."

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the most overt evidence of a hegemonic ideology is a cultural value presented as natural/divinely ordained, making all non-compliant positions as profane, subversive, dishonest, or a form of insanity.

  • Our leader was granted the right to rule by the one true God.
  • Men were created to be the head of the household.
  • Pride in the nation-state administrative unit is normal.
  • Capitalism is Natural Selection.

people who parrot shit like this are walking around with a tank strapped to their back, huffing medical-grade ideology with every breath. their entire cosmology was invented and inserted into their thoughts by ubiquitous institutions over time, and requires reinforcement multiple times, daily to maintain their orthodoxy.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 5 points 19 hours ago

I want to learn how to break these people (mentally fedposting )

The constitution is garbage-tier white supremacy on paper. The Bible is mid at best and indirectly responsible for a ton of shitty things that have hurt me and my friends and family. And people around here worship both like their brains don't work at all.

[–] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Being a patriot for the 'States is apolitical because the USA is normal. Any other country is foreign and strange, therefore it's political.

[–] agentant@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

White = Apolitical

Brown = Political

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

Being a patriot for an imperialist nation just means you are far-right politically

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Typical great American chauvinism

[–] agentant@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

I like the idea that it's only Amerikkkan patriotism that's a problem. Political in every other country except mine. How do they try and justify that?

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What is an American proud of? The amount of Iraqis they killed and the Q1 profits?

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 7 points 19 hours ago

The 3 for Me deal at Chili's pete

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah, and they also aren't political but just believe in "common sense". By avoiding the label "political," they are trying to exempt themselves from challenge and self-reflection, because how can you politically challenge something that is apolitical? So they will keep advocating for whatever political project they prefer, but insist on having an inexplicable and incontestable privilege over the "political" rabble.

At the same time, this is very much an expression of our culture oriented around domination through hypernormalization, depoliticizing politics and not even teaching people in explicit terms about the dominant philosophy of our society so much as just present its tenets as truths handed down from the universe or wrested from the clutches of monarchs. It's begging the question at a multi-civilizational scale. It's like this idea in Confucianism that you can best maintain the social order through the use of ritual where applicable, because if you instruct someone to do something, the idea of disobeying will inevitably occur to them, but in a ritual you just follow the steps because that's what you do, and the idea of doing otherwise does not necessarily occur (or perhaps is considered only as an error to avoid).

Any belief about how society should function is political and denying it is childish.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 22 hours ago

it doesn't threaten the status quo so it's apolitical in that sense. it's also bipartisan in american electoral politics even though libs have some understanding that capital-P Patriots are amogus

[–] regul@hexbear.net 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Support for nation states (or for their abolition) is political. Anarchists and Maoists would both agree on this point.

Only a babybrain fascist (or a liberal (inb4 but you repeat yourself) would think otherwise.