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I heard my parents get this from their favorite right-wing talk show host. Apparently, not just any form of patriotism, but US patriotism in particular is "apolitical", and thus there is no issue with supporting it.

Note that these are the same people who will insist that the media is getting taken over by malicious people promoting a "woke" agenda but praise commercials which glorify the United States and its supposed values.

It goes without saying that being a patriot for the United States out of all other countries is political, especially given the current regime. Being a "patriot" who supports the establishment in the US is no different from being the same in Nazi Germany.

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[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah, and they also aren't political but just believe in "common sense". By avoiding the label "political," they are trying to exempt themselves from challenge and self-reflection, because how can you politically challenge something that is apolitical? So they will keep advocating for whatever political project they prefer, but insist on having an inexplicable and incontestable privilege over the "political" rabble.

At the same time, this is very much an expression of our culture oriented around domination through hypernormalization, depoliticizing politics and not even teaching people in explicit terms about the dominant philosophy of our society so much as just present its tenets as truths handed down from the universe or wrested from the clutches of monarchs. It's begging the question at a multi-civilizational scale. It's like this idea in Confucianism that you can best maintain the social order through the use of ritual where applicable, because if you instruct someone to do something, the idea of disobeying will inevitably occur to them, but in a ritual you just follow the steps because that's what you do, and the idea of doing otherwise does not necessarily occur (or perhaps is considered only as an error to avoid).

Any belief about how society should function is political and denying it is childish.