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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 52 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago)

Here's a lovely british fridge from the 50's: https://c7.alamy.com/comp/R2K1Y1/original-1950s-vintage-old-print-advertisement-from-english-magazine-advertising-frigidaire-refrigerator-circa-1954-R2K1Y1.jpg

the larger, budget model (250 liters, so about 2/3rd of a current single-door basic fridge) is 152 guineas. For those of you not usally paying in pre-decimal british currency, that's 152 pounds and 152 shillings or 159,60 decimal pounds. Inflation from 1955 makes that about 2000 pounds/dollar/euros today.

No auto-defrost, no actually closing door, and a barely-adequate temperature controller. It did come in sherwood green though, with a kickass counter top!

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's like any other luxury.

Back in 1960, minimum wage was $1.00/hour. You could get a meal at a diner for under $1.00 or go to a really swanky place and spend $4.00 or $5.00.

Today, minimum wage is $7.50, a diner meal is $20.00, and a luxury meal is $100.00

You can go out a find a really well build product that will last, but it will cost ten times as much as the one you can afford.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the Sam Vimes' boots theory

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 6 points 7 hours ago

Nope, totally different.

Look at the price of Super Bowl tickets.

First Bowl tickets were $10.00. This year they were going for $6,000.00

Top luxury car in 1960 was $7,500.00 for a sports car and $35,000.00 for a Rolls or Bentley. Most expensive car today is $30 million.

The rich have gotten much, much richer and 'need' to spend more so people will notice.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

People have mentioned energy use and safety, but adjusting for inflation they were also way more expensive, a washing machine in the 50s was over $1000 in today's dollars. If you're willing to spend that much, you can find great reliable appliances with long lives.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

You could get something like this: https://c7.alamy.com/comp/3CRWJFN/hoover-washing-machine-magazine-advertisement-1953-3CRWJFN.jpg

For the equivalent of 425 dollars. Note that the "automatic pump" doesn't FILL your machine, nor does this machine heat the water.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

I paid 1K for a Whirlpool 6620.

[–] sahin@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

I am ready to give that money, if the device will last for 50 years. But it is really hard to rely on the machines. Even the best ones may break after a few years.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Lol 1000 doesn't even get you half way to a speed Queen. You just get the same low end shit except it's got app or screen that with show you add eventually.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

I think I paid around $1200 for my Maytag commercial, not one single problem in the last 5ish years.

[–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder how much that high cost could be reduced by modern manufacturing. Same/similar designs, but modern tooling and logistics.

I mean, they did not have CNC mills back then.

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[–] Carmakazi@piefed.social 93 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

and uses four times the electricity and substances that have been banned since the 80s

[–] riskable@programming.dev 26 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

...and burns people's homes down due to lack of safety features.

...and children choke to death from easily removable small parts.

...and people get electrocuted because of a lack of warning label telling them not to use it in the bath.

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[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 37 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ElJefe@lemmy.ca 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Mmm ya and give me some lead to go with that asbestos please. Best combo

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 14 hours ago

And require regular matinence and still fail

[–] socsa@piefed.social 18 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

You can buy appliances which will last that long, but they cost a lot of money. The reality isn't that people forgot how to make things durable, it's that consumer demand is so conditioned by price, most people "prefer" to spend less on appliances they will replace more often.

The average appliance these days is actually significantly cheaper when adjusted for inflation compared to the 60s and 70s.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 20 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

One caveat I would note: lots of people can't afford expensive, durable appliances.

It's expensive to be poor.

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Sam Vimes boots theory

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. ... A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. ... But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socio-economic unfairness.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Yes, I've heard about that theory. The boot example is good because everyone can relate.

[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This sounds great, I'd love to see an example if anyone has one handy for e.g. kitchen appliances.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 10 hours ago

Basically commercial grade equipment. A $10k oven/range which is designed to work 15 hours per day non-stop in a restaurant will last forever in your home. All the commercial manufacturers make "consumer sized" versions of their restaurant stuff for high end home kitchens.

[–] PLS_HELP@fedia.io 48 points 14 hours ago (3 children)
[–] GreenDust@lemmings.world 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think that's relevant to this post. They aren't saying that they want to recreate every old patented appliance. I am sure they would be cherry picking just the best ones from that era.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There are good appliances being made now. They're just much more expensive than the cheap and "midrange" which is usually the cheap stuff with a coat of paint.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago

Or it’s just the cheap stuff with more “features”, so it actually breaks faster.

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[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

I have an old Radio from the 50s - big wooden piece of furniture with a turntable and everything. The plug on that thing is absolutely terrifying, super flimsy and so small you have to almost touch the prongs to plug it in.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 24 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

The only thing I know close to this is Maytag has a "commercial" washer and dryer line. It's no frills, made in America, and has a 10 year warranty. That's the line I chose.

Edit: It's their Centennial line it's made with their "commercial technology."

[–] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Speed Queen is also quite good, and honestly LG does pretty well in my experience. A big problem I think is people really wanting matching appliance sets.

You should look at the most reliable brand for each category and go that way, because just because Electrolux makes good washers for example doesn't mean their ranges or dishwashers are going to be any good.

Embrace the mismatched scratch and dent appliances and you will achieve happiness

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

People match their washer to their dishwasher? I think if you're going to do that, the Miele recommendation is probably the way to go.

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not every old design was better but some were.

My wife absolutely refuses to give up her early 1970's GE range. It's impossible to get parts for it so eventually it's going to have to be replaced. One of the actually nice features it has is is that all the push button controls are on the range hood. Don't have to worry about them getting greasy while cooking or little kids turning the burners on.

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[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I do think they are onto something. I just want a dishwasher that washes dishes, a dryer that just dries, a refrigerator that refrigerates. I don't need another camera and tablet or more "smart" crap in my home, it's just one more thing to break or need updating. I just need things that work reliablely when I need them to work.

Also, less plastic in the manufacturing material would be great. Just me thinking out loud but it also seems like it would be easier to control the life span by using plastic because you can play with the chemistry to start breaking down at a certain amount of usage and temperature and age.

[–] FluxUniversity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I want a dishwasher that washes dishes, that I have the schematics to so that I can hook up my own arduino and have it broadcast on MY network when its done. Same for everything else. The internet of things wasn't a bad idea PER SE, its just that people were dis-invited to owning their technology. We don't have a culture of repair.

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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 points 10 hours ago

A lot of appliances could still be viable, but the best refrigerants are all banned. The modern ones supposedly are better for greenhouse effect, but they actively corrode parts of their closed systems, leading to consistent early part failures.

[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago

There is an open source hardware movement underway already, I'm hoping they get to large appliances soon.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Was gonna say, I do like th modern efficiencies. I'm waiting for a start up to make a heat pump oven

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

This is basically the context of “Dune”

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[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 2 points 11 hours ago

Where energy efficiency isn't a concern (maybe a blender or a toaster) this sounds nice, but otherwise...well...lots of wasted energy.

(Of course, it all has to be balanced against the cost of manufacturing/disposing.)

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