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Arrest then charge them. At the very least.
You could jump straight to breaking ankles if you'd like...
I am utterly baffled as to why any Canadian in their right mind would want to be annexed by the U.S.
Sure, charge them with treason, but give them psych evals. Maybe offer mental health treatment in lieu of whatever Canada does to treason, it's clearly a cry for help to overcome Fascist Oligarch Cuck Syndrome.
A lot of people are really fucking dumb.
I am utterly baffled as to why any Canadian in their right mind would want to be annexed by the U.S.
They think it will make them more money, somehow.
I think a lot of it is way more racist than that.
“Old stock white Canadians, and that’s us, and we don’t have to apologize for this room being filled with white people. This used to be what Alberta was. We’re not apologizing for being ourselves... If we have control over immigration, we can control who comes here.”
He also said, “the replacement theory is real.” (i.e. the federal government intends to replace "white Canadians" with other races through immigration.) And he claimed Justin Trudeau said this explicitly. (I'm pretty sure he did not...)
Old stock white Canadians, and that’s us, and we don’t have to apologize for this room being filled with white people. This used to be what Alberta was.
Says the guy with european roots.
This used to be what Alberta was.
After your ancestors came and genocided the dark-skinned natives. But they always leave out that part huh
in their right mind
Well, now apply that test to the people in question.
I am utterly baffled as to why any Canadian
You succumbed to the ethnic colonial kool-aid (nationalism) fed to you in school and subsequently believe all people of a nation are culturally the same. You have never been to Alberta. There are 'dumb redneck' equivalents in every nation everywhere. It's silly to think dumb canadians don't exist, unless you have a strange image of canada which doesn't include Alberta
I coulda said that way more politely but I'm hangry and hate nationalism and what it does to people when they were children
perhaps we should try some kind of conversion therapy on them
If it’s treason, then lock them up.
I agree... but the person calling them traitors does not have the authority to do that.
I believe it has to come from the gov of Alberta (traitors all as well) or the Federal gov.
I do expect some form of movement on this, strategically this is too dangerous to go unpunished
Criminal charges are federal in Canada, but charges are laid by crown prosecutors in that particular province (never by the government itself)
I don't think this actually meets the definition of treason, as they aren't using violence and are going the legislative/referendum route: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-46.html
(2) Every one commits treason who, in Canada,
(a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province;
(b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada;
(c) conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a);
(d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or
(e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act.
This is why a full investigation must take place. Until then we have no proof that the meeting did not violate paragraph b.
Paragraph B is the kicker, because we do know they met with a foreign power that has stated it wants to expand into Canada.
Just like our government used those hate speech laws to punish musk, a canadian citizen, for doing nazi salutes on international media / supporting fascist ideals openly?
I dont see it happening. Many of our laws are just for poor people / commoners.
I agree with the sentiment but I fail to see what the Judicial Branch of Canada could have done to Musk about that.
Hate speech is a criminal offense in Canada. Any other citizen doing a nazi salute and promoting white supremacy risks literal jail time. Hell, the guy subsequently pushed out a kiddy-porn grok tool, and still isn't getting held accountable.
One of the functions of the courts is to basically "make examples" of public/blatant violations of the laws, to re-enforce the importance of obeying the laws to other would be criminals.
Musk, a Canadian citizen, lands in Canada, as he frequently does, you throw him in Jail. Max sentence is two years, so have him serve the max -- I mean, the scale of his actions certainly would warrant a proper display of punishment. We threw Meng Wanzhou in jail based on the descriptions she provided for doing Wire Transfers, held her in Canada for years before she was released. So, that's what the government'd do if Musk wasn't a billionaire/US figure immune to all laws in Canada. Laws that only really apply to the poors.
I agree but our criminal code is specific in that nobody can be convicted of an offense committed outside of Canada unless specifically stipulated by the law.
So like we would have to amend our laws in the legislature to specifically allow for criminal convictions of the things Musk did.
IMO the ICC our USA would be more appropriate entities to pursue the criminal justice musk very much deserves.
Hate speech is a criminal offense in Canada.
The operative words here are "in Canada."
Musk hasn't done anything in Canada that would meet the definition of hate speech.
Similar thing happened in Spain with Catalans and many of them did end up in prison so... there's hope!
If Canada is smarter than America, they will deal with this decisively. It's one think to be a big dickhead online, screaming for revolution. It's a whole other thing to be meeting with representatives of a hostile government who has made many threats of invasion. That's fucking treason, and Canada should deal with it right the fuck NOW, and send a clear message to future traitors. Don't wait to see if it gets worse, like we do here in America, deal with it preemptively.
That does sound like literal treason.
Technically legally closer to sedition, but nonetheless they are traitors to me.
I can't express how much I wish my fellow Albertans, who want to join the US, to pack their things and head to their promised land.
The separatists movement has always been here. For decades even conservatives would laugh at someone suggesting ceding from Canada. Then PP came along and started riling them up and taking a page out of mein Kampf 2nd edition and here we are. That, and every equipment operator, truck driver and Derrick hand started listening to conservative podcasts and doing some 'deep thinking' without the requisite number of brain cells.
Fuckheads.
It seems to be universal that one. For some reason truck drivers and right-wing rhetoric just seem to go hand in hand.
But they're the ones that have to cross over international borders and go through checkpoints all the time, so you would think that they'd be all in favour of smooth diplomatic relations.
Accused? No. It’s straight up treason plain and simple.
oh god
It's "accused" until a court convicts them. If you don't like that our justice system works that way then you probably have more in common with those separatists than you think.
Do it fast, do it fully, and show no mercy, the window lickers in the USA (large portion at least) still say Jan 6th wasn't really treason, but when central Republicans (Democrats) and Nazi Republicans (everyone right of Democrats) fail to do it we the people need to, cause I still think someone should go put each and every one of those people down including the orange shortbus rider running the show full of pedophile dementia, fuckin hate that fuck
Alberta wanting to become its own country is like a high schooler who moves out of his parents' house because he thinks he can make it as a Soundcloud rapper
i suggest trying out this new word i learned:
Sure. You learned it but won't teach it to others. All you people in the cave...you're fucked!
well sure. if i teach it to them then i won't get any more than my head outta this damn cave
Half of America is being held hostage and secret police are gunning down people in the streets and people in your country are looking at this and saying to themselves thats what I want. A lot of us would die to live in a democracy and these clowns are committing treason? Fascism is a cancer you better cut that cancer out
If anyone wants to know how this turns out...just ask Ukraine.
Who wants to start a GoFundMe to pay for moving expenses for these guys