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At this point I think it's pretty safe to conclude that when the right-wing 2A guys argue that 2A is inviolable/shall not be infringed, they mean it only in the context of service to right-wing politics, not that it's a right that applies to anyone else. In other words, they support the notion of privilege, not rights.
I was actually surprised to see a lot of comments on r/conservative talking about how the stuff the feds are saying about the second amendment is wrong and unconstitutional, and a good number saying that the killing wasn't necessary, they'll ultimately support Trump and ICE over any kind of progressive though but it was interesting. Even the NRA posted about how Pretti was a legal gun owner and there should be an investigation before people jump to conclusions.
This. Don't fall into the team based bullshit, this level of jackbootery should piss off everyone. If not for the red/blue bullshit I am sure that the vast majority of americans would rally together to counter the government overreach but instead everyone is doing the Two Minutes Hate.
My dad has always said it'd be the Republicans who would take guns.
They're working for it.
California's gun-control culture started with a 1967 law (Mulford Act) designed to outlaw carrying loaded guns. It was specifically written to keep the Black Panthers from patroling their neighborhoods with loaded firearms.
It was signed into law by Ronald Reagan.
When the order to seize the guns comes, it will come from the right, and not the left. Those with money can have guns, those without, can't, no matter what party they belong to.
Never gonna happen in the USA.
If MAGA takes permanent power, you can kiss your legal guns goodbye.
No such thing as permanent power.
Said the republic right before Caesar
Historically speaking or in your personal experience in the US?
Of course they support the notion of privilege. They are all about privilege and anti-egalitarianism.
Never seen a bovine more ripe for the meat packing plant. Not that I'd let any dog i care about touch the filth that comes from his carcass in particular.
The NRA and right wing gun culture has convinced a generation that the 2A is about your right to own a gun.
The 2A is explicitly about your right to organize members of your community in order to defend your community, the fact that you need weapons for that means that you must also have the right to own weapons.
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Does anyone else not give a flying fuck what traitors say?
There's my peoples. Fuck these nazis.
I didn't realize constitutionally-enshrined rights were something a single appointed official could wave away simply by saying they "don't count."
And even if the victim had broken a law (say, if he didn't have a permit (which he did)), then the legal recourse isn't a summary execution. He was disarmed, he was no longer a threat, and even if he had been carrying illegally (which he wasn't), the law says that he be arrested and granted due process in a court of law.
These federal agents violated due process and the rule of law, and the victim didn't even break any laws.
I didn’t realize constitutionally-enshrined rights were something a single appointed official could wave away simply by saying they “don’t count.”
IOKIYAR.
This Pretti guy didn't seem like he was sufficiently identifying as a Republican...rights only belong to conservative Republicans.
Mind explaining the acronym? Too many permutations for me to try to think it through...
Oh!
IOKIYAR -> It's OKay If You're A Republican
Oh! I see. In-groups and out-groups. Protecting and binding. Got it!
Thanks
Americans, show them your second amendment counts already
I am a lifelong supporter of the 2nd Amendment, but not a single issue voter. So no one can really place me politically.
What bothers me most is fellow gun enthusiasts (cough republican gun nuts)... always say its a "God given right".....
these events are going to be a brain melting contraction to their beliefs that the GOP supports them and that the 2A is immutable.
The GOP did a great job of convincing the feeble minded that they are their supporters and guns are their greatest political topic to rally behind... Now trump is having a come to jesus moment for the party, as his DHS, FBI, and others in his administration are saying they will kill you if you have guns around them
The idea of "god given rights" has never been true. Humans have always had to fight for every right they have ever had, and it takes away power from those rights to insinuate they were given to us by some magic sky man.
That is the rhetoric the regressives have used incessantly to defend their rights to firearms. Now that the KKK and proud bois have been given guns and federal authority suddenly those rules don't apply anymore.
Who couldn't have seen this coming other than most of us. The people I work with are 90% non white. They don't think this will apply to them. They don't like me talking about it. They think they can just keep their head down and someone else will take care of it.
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Rights are never forfeited, they are violated.
In that case, nazi fucks also have no rights.
“When Fascism came into power, most people were unprepared, both theoretically and practically. They were unable to believe that man could exhibit such propensities for evil, such lust for power, such disregard for the rights of the weak, or such yearning for submission. Only a few had been aware of the rumbling of the volcano preceding the outbreak.”
– Erich Fromm, Escape from Freedom
We STILL haven't even seen the worst of it. People consistently lacked the willingness to recognize that it could happen here, even when the threat was imminent. They don't want to think unhappy thoughts, don't want to think their world is crumbling, don't want to acknowledge that things will never go back to how they were. It's incredibly frustrating how much people delude themselves so they don't need to stare into the void.
There were people in 2024 saying that the shit happening at this very moment would never happen under Trump 2.0.
These abhorrent acts have been so normalized over the last year that the unthinkable has become blase.
I shudder to think of where we are going to be in another year.
The Right is coming for your guns.
Well and isn't that just what they accused the left (and the center) of doing? Full disclosure, I am a gun owning slightly left of center.
Yes. But the left never wanted your guns. Just sensible laws. The right will now have to take your guns because they don’t want anyone forming a militia.
It's always been projection with those fucks.
Boy needs a couple strong rights, a few lefts, and finishing uppercut to his idiotic head
Man, I wonder if the second amendment set is finally realizing the right has always wanted your guns more than the left.
Or did we forget "take the guns first"?
Weird thing is this is the “government takeover” the 2nd amendment nuts have been screaming about for generations. Not at all surprised that they’re mostly silent now. Also not at all surprised it their own political party who’s doing this.
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