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I mean... they've done a FANTASTIC job on their PR campaign hiding that history so I don't blame others for missing it. But I'll certainly be the first one to point it out every chance I can. There's a lot of terrible religions, and the SBC may not be the exact worst when Scientology exists. but it's certainly up there.

No no... the SBC has full on thinking slaves are a good thing so much so that's why they exist racism, that's their marketing niche.

I am sure they will realize they are making a mistake and apologize 150 years from now.

It took them 150 years to say they were sorry the congregation was formed by people who thought other people were livestock. I would be shocked if they actually apologized for less.

Ditto

Oh no, it was way worse than that.

The SBC existed because Triennial Convention wouldn't accept slavery. The SBC was formed to uphold slavery. They didn't apologize as a congregation for their views until 1995. 150 years is a bit late to the party but it certainly helps inform why many of us aren't surprised by this.

Yea, I'm over here thinking the writer is an optimist if he thinks the moral collapse is complete. We'll see some new levels of horror before it's all done.

A term I heard growing up was "Even a blind pig finds an acorn"

Do not forget this is the president who got chummy with North Korea last administration. Really can't be surprised after that.

I think the funniest part of this is I wandered over to the conservative areas of the internet to see the reaction and they're fighting each other on how to feel about this. They all hate Mamdani, but half are as anti-Israel and "America first" that they're asking why there's an Israel Day parade and screaming at the pro-Israel groups that are mad at Mamdani for not going.

If nothing else, him doing this has given a fun show.

I mean... conservatives.

If half of you country is like these people, you’d better secede and leave them try to live their bigoted selfish lives at their fullest to see what happens.

I don't disagree with you on them not having a grain of empathy, but seceding like this... won't happen. This is more often than not a urban/rural divide, so my state which votes like this has two major metros that vote against this sort of thing, as well as a smaller college town. Flipside the neighboring state of Illinois is known for being blue and voted against Trump and his policies because Chicago has more control over the state while the farmlands are red.

California has a major right wing movement in entire segments of its state that is trying to secede from the state.

If we go into a civil war again, it won't be like last time with a north vs south, it's going to be a nationwide clusterfuck. Washington, Oregon, California is the closest to being able to pull off a splitting off from the country and it being a line.

There are some places where the leadership has to turn to whatever their followers say.

Trump did push Operation Warp Speed to help push the COVID vaccinations faster through the regulations and manufacturing.

The fascinating moment was watching him become an anti-vaxxer. He had a speech gently encouraging people to get the vaccine, saying he got it, and said it should be anyones choice but he suggests they get it. The crowd turned on him and booed and he immediately dropped it. After that day he was pure antivax.

It means there is potential to get some nonsense conspiracy from the ground up under these assholes. It's hard, but its possible.