You guys haven't really had rights for a while, by the sounds of it.
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Black people been saying. everyone else just refuses to listen
(except for native americans, they been saying it the longest, they just don't have the presence of messaging because they've been pushed so far into the margins)
The main question is how legal would it be to shoot at masked armed gang breaking into your home to kidnap you and your family without any judicial warrant.
Because that is exactly what the 2nd amendment is for
You're forgetting the "Nobody is going to stop me" exemption. The constitution is just a piece of paper if nobody is willing to defend it.
Oh you can tell them to piss off. But they have more guns than you do.
Its not, republicans stacked the courts so they can violate the law and republicans in congress are cheering them on.
The constitution give you a right to organize 30 of your neighbors, armed with guns, and chase them out of your neighborhood.
You also have the right to put buckshot into the face of anyone who illegally breaks into your home.
The law only exists so far as it is enforced. Who will enforce the law against the state? Political power grows out the barrel of a gun.
The law is only the law insofar as it is enforcible.
It isn't legal, and the Constitution expliclty forbids this.
Welcome to fascism, did you think for some reason ... words written on paper would... restrain them or matter in anyway?
They are fascists.
Their whole thing is ... truth doesn't exist, language is a weapon, not a means of reaching a mutual understanding.
They only understand one thing, and that is violent force, and the physical and societal logistics that make it possible.
If your game plan for resisting fascists is 'but that's illegal!', you've already lost.
It's an ideology that has proven to resort to violence and genocide rather than admit fault, let alone wrongdoing.
As if Trumps GeStaPo would care about the Constitution! The rule of law died in the US about a year ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception
We have ceded civil liberties when within 100 miles of a boarder, this happened decades ago and most politicians were ok with it because it didn't make the news.. just a quiet tool in the toolbox....
Well, the tool is now being used
Don't airports count as borders as well?
technically, no, but airport security workers of all flavors can refer individuals to ICE if they deem it necessary
True but this current development is even worse, as you may see that Minneapolis isn't in that zone.
Issue is, this isn't boarder patrol, this is immigration control. But international airports count as the 100 miles radius as well. And things like inland ports. So this map is incorrect on enforcement for this as well.
From my understanding no the border rule stops at customs.
Yes and we have customs at international airports we also have customs at inland ports we have customs at anywhere that rail receives and rail yards distribute.
Yes but the 100 mile rule does not apply to air ports. The exception stops at the point of entry and domestic flights are exempt from the border exceptions because people do not go through customs.
§ 287.1 Definitions. (a)
(1) External boundary. The term external boundary, as used in section 287(a)(3) of the Act, means the land boundaries and the territorial sea of the United States extending 12 nautical miles from the baselines of the United States determined in accordance with international law.
(2) Reasonable distance. The term reasonable distance, as used in section 287(a) (3) of the Act, means within 100 air miles from any external boundary of the United States or any shorter distance which may be fixed by the chief patrol agent for CBP, or the special agent in charge for ICE, or, so far as the power to board and search aircraft is concerned any distance fixed pursuant to paragraph (b) of this section.
The world champions of mass shootings and gun hoarding in case of a corrupt government: whatever can we do? Is this legal?
We don't call 911 around here eagle sounds intensifies
If someone was in the process of actively murdering me, I would think it safe to assume they are aware that murder is illegal. If I tell them it's illegal, they're probably more likely to double down and make sure I'm dead so that I can't be a witness.
It doesn’t matter whether it’s illegal. If you don’t have rule of law, which is the reality that MAGA has us living in, then all that matters is if you can get away with it. If you can’t or won’t be held to account, then there is no law
it is very much unconstitutional and definitely illegal. but you would need a functioning congress and a supreme court to rule on it or whatever
It isn’t legal. And they haven’t changed the law. It’s just now their policy to ignore the law.
Right now they’re trying to “shock and awe” everyone into submission and compliance before the law catches up with them.
What do you want to bet at some point when ICE and Miller go too far that whistleblowers inside ICE dig up the lists of the recent hires and slip them off to the various states that they are active in, for the states to bring charges?
Good gravy, if I was working in an ICE office, you BET that surrpetitiously making backups of all the HR files documenting which people are going where, would be my main agenda.
Trump can pardon all he wants, but the states can still make these goose-stepping fuckers pay..
What do you want to bet at some point when ICE and Miller go too far that whistleblowers inside ICE dig up the lists of the recent hires and slip them off to the various states that they are active in, for the states to bring charges?
A short while back they murdered an innocent civilian by shooting her in the face and just recently kidnapped a 5 year old child.
If neither of those was "too far" then there is no "too far" for them. There will be no whistle blowers. ICE is evil.
There have already been whistleblowers.
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The rule of law has ceased to exist in the US. It has been replaced by the rule of power.
You either get used to no longer have rights, or you can start to get them back.
Yup.
Those of us with functional brains kept telling everyone else without that it can and will happen here. They didn't think so.
Now it's happening here.
It's a slow boil, so people will keep denying. But hey, women don't have the same rights they had a few years ago. Now due process is gone. What's next?
Now to be precise those women's rights were taken away legally as they were not codified anywhere in a lasting manner.
Well yeah.
A lot of what the Nazis did was legal, too.
Particularly at the beginning when they started passing laws to persecute Jews and other minorities. All done legally.
Like when the U.S. didn't let women or blacks vote or own land. All legal.
It's not legal. But the law is a piece of paper and a gun is a gun.
You can tell them to piss off but they can beat and/or kill you and get away with it so words arent really gonna have much stopping power in this case.
We live in a society where might = right. If you have the firepower or other means to stop them from entering your private space then you have the right to do so.
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“Instead, the disclosure claims that the memo was rolled out in a secretive manner in which some agents were verbally briefed while others were allowed to view it but not keep a copy,” Blumenthal said. “It was reportedly clear that anyone who openly spoke out against this new directive would be fired.”
Seems like they know it's not
As Pompey said, "Cease quoting laws to us that have swords."
It's illegal as fuck.
Legal Answer
The Fourth Amendment specifically says the "right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated" without a warrant showing probable cause and due process. It is settled law in the court system that this means a judicially-reviewed and -signed warrant is required to enter a home.
Basically, the Trump administration issued a May 12, 2025 DHS memo (signed by Todd Lyons) saying that no, the "warrant" and "due process" clause is satisfied if the DHS issues its own warrant.
This obviously violates the constitution because then judicial branch is meant to check the executive branch via review of executive action. DHS signing their own warrants means they are acting with inherent biased towards their own personnel, so there is no meaningful due process. It's literally the law enforcement arm also being the judge.
A more detailed legal answer to your question is here: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/can-ice-enter-a-home-to-make-an-arrest-with-only-an-administrative-warrant , and it also links to the whistleblower complaint, which itself has the DHS May 12, 2025 memo as Exhibit 1 (page 17 of the file).
The DHS memo doesn't appear to cite any actual case law (except a footnote that references a Central District of California case that "judicial" warrants are required in that jurisdiction, tellingly), but the link above notes the law is so clear that, to find an explanation, it theorizes that they are relying on dicta (non-binding, non-precedential discussion) in a court opinion from a 1960 case, that suggests (but again, doesn't legally bind) administrative warrants could be considered. That dicta doesn't hold they are valid, and has been contradicted by the Supreme Court multiple times since 1960.
Practical Answer
In short, the Trump administration likely knows this is a completely unconstitutional position. However, they also know it takes time for court challenges to force them to take any action (violate the constitution->victims possibly find counsel->file papers->trial court delays->trial->multiple appeals->Supreme Court).
Therefore, they are openly violating the law. We can't prove their goals, but it seems obvious that Trump and his chief advisor, Stephen Miller are looking for an excuse to declare martial law. By illegally killing, kidnapping and abusing American citizens and residents, they assume the backlash will give them an excuse.
If it doesn't, they will continue and assume that they will either be saved by the extremely right-leaning Supreme Court, or if not, will still have normalized a US gestapo acting with impunity for enough time to scare into silence any meaningful criticism, stop elections, or will simply "comply" with the decision two+ years from now continuing the process with minor changes to the policy that remain unconstitutional but restart the court process.
That's a well-written explanation, thank you, and it's the Trump administration's game plan on everything.
Pick a policy, any policy, from DOGE to tariffs to blocking funding on a whim, whatever — it's illegal, unconstitutional, or both, but that doesn't matter. If a court blocks them, it'll take months and they'll appeal.
Meanwhile the daily damage is done, and it's permanent. If/when Democrats are again in charge, being Democrats, they'll tinker with the mechanisms a little and pose for smiling pictures, but we'll never see US AID again, and ICE's ginormous budgets will be the norm, etc.
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