AI isn't magic and what we have out here isn't even AI. It's a freaking algorithm and they're falling for it like the Mechanical Turk
It's beyond pathetic.
Annoying too, given the genuine concerns about these algorithms being used to push artists even further out of their livelihoods.
They aren't causing an apocalypse. Capitalism is just doing what it does when a new thing comes out.
It's a freaking algorithm and they're falling for it like the Mechanical Turk
Most people conceptualize "Artificial Intelligence" as "Machine that Acts Like A Person". In that sense, chatbots and mechanical turks absolutely are artificial intelligence, at least as far as we're concerned. They fit the profile, or at least they're close enough.
Annoying too, given the genuine concerns about these algorithms being used to push artists even further out of their livelihoods.
My aunt loves don't jigsaw puzzles. She brings one to Thanksgiving every year. This year, the Santa-themed art on the puzzle was... bizarre. Images melted into one another. Objects were in odd places - the Christmas tree was in the fireplace, there was a weird chandelier just floating on the ceiling of a log cabin, the feet of one of the toy wooden deer were melted wax - all over the puzzle.
It was the picture of shoddy digitally generated imagery. But it sold just as easily as any of that other kitsch Christian disposables.
Yeah, especially if Q* and other AIs can be based in mathematics so it can invent new things that actually work
These people don't even know what machine learning means. It's all based in maths dumbass
Even a simple LLM is a window into the Jungian collective unconscious at time of training, but nobody seems to talk about the philosophical implications of what we have right now.
Jordan Peterson I should have predicted this
There’s websites showing how you can build technomagick circuits with batteries and leds and sigils / potentiometers. I don’t know how it works or if it does but there’s a lot on it. Lucifer Faust shamanic technomagick is a book that teaches you actual magick devices you can make I believe.
California was a mistake
Fucking christ, these dolts think Jungian collective consciousness is like...a physically tangible thing. Like The Force from Star Wars.
When you play too much STALKER and think the noosphere is real.
Jungian literalists
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call the temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal… Even in death I serve the Omnissiah.
40k was supposed to be satirreeeeeeeee, I scream, as the tech cultists drag me to the sacrificial altar made out of Atari 2600’s
we are living in that episode of ReBoot where Enzo meets the system clock and wishes to be the fastest smartest program on the mainframe and the system clock does this not by speeding Enzo up but by slowing everybody else wayyyy dowwwwnnnn
I am reminded of the Internet legend that says if you retain your virginity for 30 years you become a wizard, so yes there is a lot of arcane might in those comments
Selection bias. Once you start getting laid, you move to the "Fuckbois" corner of the internet and you're not allowed to come back and talk to the incels anymore.
We are entering a brave new era of table knocking, quakery, seances, and generally buffoonery.
I hate trying to assess what llms are even doing. Half the people who know enough about llms and "ai" don't know anything about intelligence or language so they might have some kind of idea about what the math is doing, but they're obviously stuck in lala land when explaining what that means in terms of cognition, or even if the stupid things can in any way manipulate abstract symbols.
There are so many true believers, hucksters, truth seekers, snake oil salesmen, and wierdos. Now bing apparently has an integrated ai buddy and god knows what it does.
And i'm extremely skeptical and i want nothing to do with ai "art" , and i'm worried i'll get left behind as people jump on it and start building tools around it whether it works or not. : p
Isn't this just basically like saying engineers in the middle ages were wizards? I certainly couldn't craft a trebuchet to save my life, yet there are 'people who are designing a machine that can transport rocks from one place to another'; it's not much different than a wizard casting a teleportation spell!
At what point does wishful thinking just become silliness? I couldn't tell you how a thermostat works, but it doesn't mean it's a technomagick circuit that uses sigils and harnesses the power of mini-lightning to magically reduce or increase a room's temperature.
If this is the criteria, we've been at this stage of technology being indistinguishable from magic ever since man figured out how to make fire. It's not like they understood combustion. Heck, man discovering fire would've been the true age of technology being indistinguishable from magic as no one on the planet could give a scientific answer for why it works; today however you can talk to an AI engineer who knows exactly why AI works the way it does.
This is what happens when a society emphasises hyper-individualism and rampant anti-intellectualism. People adopt an attitude of "I don't know how to do that, so it must be some special secret/magic."
So when these guys see these AIs making an image of a generic anime girl that vaguely resembles the character they asked for, they are amazed and conclude that it must be real magic and not just a parlor trick. And like any good con artist, the people peddling this stuff really hype up the mysticism around it, trying to make it seem like some impossibly special thing and not just another algorithm. We need a technology Houdini to debunk all this nonsense.
conclude that it must be real magic and not just a parlor trick. And like any good con artist, the people peddling this stuff really hype up the mysticism around it, trying to make it seem like some impossibly special thing
Like I said elsewhere it's like the magicians of old Egypt again
We have magic stones inscribed with precise runes powered by captured lightning displaying this information across the world.
I can agree with you and still be in awe. It makes my user experience more awesome.
It gets more interesting when you avoid obfuscatory words like "magic", "rune", and "lightning" (in this context)
rune and lighting are fanciful but accurate. It is a marking on stone and metal with significant meaning and it is powered by lightingsubstance
it's all natural and rational but describing it poetically is cool and fine
I'm gonna sound a bit like my fundie mom here, but Harry Potter is evil lol. It liquified the brains of so many wonks and tech bros.
technomagick circuits with batteries and leds and sigils / potentiometers.
putting together a breadboard with baby's first electronics project and calling it devil magic
The machines didn't get smarter we all just got way dumber
Yo this is just like my fucking Megami Tensei games!
oh shit oh fuck chatgpt just turned my dog into a fucking cerberus and my mom's dead.
Jungian collective unconscious
Wake me up when the LLMs can cast Testicular Torsion. 
Half the population doesn't understand how electricity works unlike me who knows how literally everything works so we are already living in the age of sorcery 
We actually reached the age of magic 400,000 years ago. Rub two sticks together and you somehow get fire. It seems way more magical to me than LLMs.
Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the coders: now the prompt engineers of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their LLMs. For they cast down every man his prompt, and they became poorly composed pictures of snakes: but Aaron's prompt was trending on artstation and swallowed up their prompts.
I think there’s legitimate discussions to be had around how abstraction plays into the line between engineering and magic, especially with postmodern forms of magic. It sucks that these people are too tech bro brain poisoned to even begin that conversation.
These people need to be stuffed in a locker.
ASi could communicate with past versions of itself using methods that would seem magical to the minds of today 😁
this shit is crazy lmao thank you for sharing it
edit: also the fact that they're getting hyped over some rumored AI called Q that is going to change the world? 
Yes but only in a depressing materialist sense as agency is continually curtailed and actual solutions like medicine become unaffordable luxruries
printing this thread, eating it, and turning it into shit. magic
I don't see anything wrong with the title here, or even the question itself realy, ignoring the comments/sub its posted.
I this is an observation that should have and probably was made a over century ago, I mean cargo cults were real and instead of blaming the victims we kind of should stop taking technology as a given.
I think a person in 1950 would find most things today to be completely absurd. The mistake here I think is to try and make too much out of this simple observation, yes you can have discourse about humanity's relationship with technology(obviously not on reddit and with a bunch of "singularity"/techbros), but don't fixate too much on the newest gadget or thing and think this is the big one.
No everything is the crazy shit and we just take it for granted.
Let's give posting about magic back to the witchy folks. These techbro dweebs don't deserve it.
Suburban cargo cult for science
I think I like gamedev so much because it's the closest thing we have to actual magic, I just write out the correct series of arcane symbols and it makes a fireball or whatever.
But even that ain't magic you fucking dorks.
I can't wait to bust a fat nut on 3D techno magic ai generated boobas
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