I work for a shitty big ass company. I get the legal minimum of time off. In new York that's seven days a year. One of my coworkers is in Texas, so she gets zero.
The us is an embarrassment
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I work for a shitty big ass company. I get the legal minimum of time off. In new York that's seven days a year. One of my coworkers is in Texas, so she gets zero.
The us is an embarrassment
It's legal to have ZERO days off a year?! This feels like a human rights violation somehow
This whole country is a human rights violation.
According to this CBS article https://www.cbsnews.com/news/one-in-four-workers-in-us-dont-get-any-paid-vacation-time-or-holidays/
1 in 4 workers don't get any paid vacation time. It's from 2019 but it's not like things have gotten better over there since then.
That's my Americans never leave the US. They don't have time. ,
In theory, vacation time is supposed to be something you negotiate as part of your employment contract. Conservatives believe that market forces will balance out the needs of the worker and the company, as companies with bad employment practices will have trouble finding employees.
In practice, that only works for high-demand positions with a small labor pool. Basically everyone else has no negotiating power because employers have a huge pool to pick from. Conservatives say employees can just go somewhere else to get a better job or go back to school (another topic), but that also doesn't work in when all the available jobs do the same thing.
Basically, it's an extension of rugged individualism. It's up to the individual to take care of themselves. The fact that the landscape in which most people must operate doesn't allow for it is ignored.
That's wild. I get 35 days plus bank holidays plus 42 hours a year for when you need to take a few hours off at the end of the day or start a few hours late if you have other commitments.
The American dream is working every day of your life. Literally every day. No sick days. No vacations. Nothing. From the time you are 15 until you are 75. You can even brag about it like it’s some badge of honor. It’s amazing.
Boomers love playing the work martyr. They've wrapped their entire sense of identity in working, their role at work, and some strange dogged determination that such a way of life has greater value than time spent with their family, children, friends, or pursuing any non-work interests.
And now huge swathes of them have nothing but their grinding mentality, as their family has splintered, their children have gone no-contact, and they have nothing of their Self to fall back on. It's why they still perch on the upper rungs of our political and corporate ladders, punching down at anything they don't understand.
Yup, boomers took the easy way out and drowned themselves in work rather than organize to change the system.
I know this is a hot take but boomers who don't even know how to live without working after they have been on this planet for decades are pathetic, second in blame only to the cruel system that diminished them to shadows of their past selves.
Speaking to boomers here - shut up, turn your TV set to fox news off and take up birding or something else actually real, your work identity is a flimsy illusion of self, you need to actively explore who you are not contract it out to your job you old hateful, childish vampires of humanities' future.
...and yes before the inveitable "not all Boomers!", I know.
My grandpa didn't understand fiction. He grew up in a company town and was working in the mines after he completed sixth grade (12 years old). It was and is truly sad. He'd say things like why would you bother with that nonsense when someone mentioned watching a movie or reading a book.
After he was forced to retire due to dementia, he drove to the places he worked to talk to the workers about work. He did this every weekday. Dementia progressed, as it does. After far too many fender benders and running out of gas a few times in the middle of nowhere, his wife and daughter had to take the keys. After that he watched TV. He watched mostly the news, fox news and NBC nightly news. Occasionally the history channel. It was "real" so it was all that mattered.
We hardly had anything to talk about. We were politically and religiously opposite. I will say he was a union man and lifelong Democrat, so at least he wouldn't have been down with any of the shit going on these days. I had dropped out of college and didn't get a good paying job until after he died, so I was just a failure.
But. We finally connected when I got him to watch the show Survivorman with Les Stroud. He loved that shit. It was real.
It used to pay well. People used to buy big houses and earn pensions, and get a new car every 5 years or less.
Man oh fucking man, have times changed. No new cars, no houses at all... We're lucky to get a decent rental that doesn't go up more than $100 a year.
Goods are skyrocketing in price, LLM's are taking jobs away, Healthcare costs are skyrocketing, wages are way, way, WAY below what they should be... I could keep going, but this is enough depressing things in one paragraph.
The American dream is that someday you'll have other people work their lives away so you can have a comfy life of luxury.
It was always bullshit.
I've never had a two weeks vacation. I'm 52.. If I have 36 hrs off in one block I go camping.
This is insane. Why would you put up with this?
Because some people need to have multiple hyper-yachts and who are we to stand in their way?
There are millionaires and billionaires in Europe though, so clearly it is possible to have decent work-life balance and still support the excesses of a rich upper class, assuming that's a requirement.
The amount of productivity lost because of paid leave is almost negligible, study after study has shown that people are less productive the more overworked they are. So staff with no time off work longer hours but are less productive for those hours, the end result is it pretty much equals out. If it didn't, the US economy would be doing better then it is, €1 is $1.16.
What the fuck am I going to do about it? Get arrested bringing the people responsible a lake city quiet pill?
In New Zealand if you have an office job there's a decent chance you're not even allowed to work for at least a week, often two, sometimes three over the Christmas/New Year period.
The days between Christmas and 2 January are not even considered working days when calculating working days in contracts.
I'm an American and luckily I work for a company that does the same thing. We "shut down" during that time. They even give 4 weeks of PTO a year starting off. This is no where near the norm.
Haha here the legal minimum is 4 weeks plus 12 more paid public holidays on top.
You don't have weekends?
unpaid
To get a surgery done.
I had my architect leave for 3 months after he started the transition from AWS to google with full rewrite on the app and re-design of the system.
he did not care at all.
this is Sweden
I used to work in the financial industry where it was mandated for compliance reasons that we take 2 (TWO) solid weeks of vacation. Reason being that if you were doing anything funny like cooking the systems, either people would catch it when they took over your duties or your absence would cause a discrepancy when you were unable to keep up your shenanigans.
I only had 2 (TWO) weeks of vacation. So in an act of mercy the company decided to bend compliance so that I only needed to take one solid week off and the other week was mine to take at another time or split up as needed. You know, rather than give me any more vacation time.
As a european, I simply do not understand how America even acts as if it functions. Shit cost of living, Shit work hours/week, shit vacation time, "benefits" that we see as the bare fucking minimum for us to even show up to an interview, shit healthcare system, shit unemployment system.
Y'all are slaves, but most of you don't even realise it.
Literally everything is a farce, almost every product, every deal and agreement is an inherent ripoff, and there's a catch to everything short of taking a walk in a park.
shit, they towed my car
About a decade ago I worked a few weeks at ShopKo. Their hours were terrible; they'd make you work 5-9pm to unload the trucks, then make you work 5am-1:30pm the following morning to restock the shelves.
You get exactly 8 hours between shifts making it physically impossible to get 8 hours of sleep. And since the hours were spread so wide throughout the day it was impossible to have a regular sleep schedule. It's legal for companies to do this to their workers in the US.
I was also only paid around $8.50/hr, but that's beside the point.
In a similar vein, my next job was at another retail store. One time I requested a weekend off to help a friend move, but they denied it and instead made me work 7 days in a row, Wednesday through Tuesday. They got away with it because the company's shift tracking app ends the work week on Saturday, so it didn't realize I worked a week straight.
I was paid around $10.50/hr on average there.
In my country most Collective Bargaining Agreements negotiated by unions include a "coming off" day. After a night shift, you are legally required to have a rest period that usually covers the rest of that day and often the next, depending on the rotation cycle
Just had a baby. Had the privilege of using 5 days of PTO for my parental leave. Partner gets like 4 months, thankfully.
It's sad there's such a disparity between leave amounts at different employers in the USA. It really should be standardized.
I'm from Australia, where it's mandated to get four weeks (20 days) of PTO per year, 20 weeks of paid parental leave, at least a year of unpaid parental leave, and an extra 8 weeks of PTO every 7 years ("long service leave").
I'm living in the USA now, and am fortunate that my employer offers 21 days PTO per year. I also have unlimited sick leave, which is a strange phrase to hear as an Aussie (why would sick days be limited??)
There is zero reason to give out such little holiday time in the US. Its literally just mean
3 DAY WEEKEND WOOOO WE'RE DRINKIN 14 BEERS AT CHILIS TONIGHT 🎆 🎆 🎆 
So how ubiquitous is paid vacation time around the EU? How much could a fast food worker expect to receive if they're working full time?
Fast food working is not lesser work than office work, even though it might be like that in US. Same laws apply.
It'll vary country to country. In the UK (I know we're not in anymore) it's 28 days. France is 30, Italy 32, Estonia 40. I'm not sure if there's any with less than the UK, as we've probably got the closest work culture to the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country
Just the fact that you measure it in full days is a flex on the US.
What use is a non-full day?
We literally earn PTO in the form of hours per pay period worked.
🫠 goodness gracious.
The "great time off" for federal employees is that they have a higher threshold before they cap how much you are allowed to have and number of hours earned increases based on years of service. These jobs are considered a tradeoff of great benefits for lower pay.
That's the idea, the job doesn't matter, only how much you work (half-time, full-time, 4/5, 9/10, ...).
Here in Belgium, for me, full-time is 38 hours. Because 40 hours is easier, that means I get 20 vacation days + 12 days for compensate for the 2 hour surplus each week.
Then there's a few extra days, like when a holiday falls in the weekend, you're allowed to move it.
There's a lot more, but they often require special conditions. You can get days off for education. When you're fired or leaving the job, you can get days off when applying for a new job. There's days when you're getting (or adopting) a baby.
These 36 hours occurred during the weekend.
A few lucky Americans are getting this Monday off. Some paid, some not.