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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Mass transit systems yet? No? Okay, I'll check back in a decade after this problem has gotten substantially worse.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I get so sick of dealers advertising "$20,000 off! Only $499/mo" for overpriced cars no one wants, when $20K is larger than my entire vehicle budget and the max monthly payment I can handle is $150. My car is 20 years old and it's paid off, and I plan to drive it forever if prices aren't going to go back to reasonable levels.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I just want a small car I can work on myself. 30 years ago, I could maintain my own car, do some shadetree mechanics...

But all cars today are meant to be black boxes. All need proprietary tools and computers to do almost anything.

Dear Santa, could I have a 67 camaro.

[–] Gathorall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Kias just a few years ago were copies of late 90s cars at a price reflecting that and low complexity making them efficient to maintain. Take a Kia now, it's just as expensive as everything else and will be scrapped in 8 years when one of the $2000 proprietary led assemblies fails.

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[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 12 points 2 days ago

Hurray! The GDP is saved!

[–] hark@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm told that Americans only want big expensive cars but for some reason the government felt the need to slap 100% tariffs on small inexpensive Chinese cars.

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 101 points 3 days ago (21 children)

- Make car dependant infrastructure for every single city or town
- Refuse to innovate, build only "luxury" models
- ????
- Profit

[–] riskiedingo@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Similarly with housing. Why make cheap starter homes when you can make so much more with “Luxury” homes and condos.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 3 days ago (4 children)

And yet use the same cheap materials in the "luxury" ones that you would have used in the cheap ones anyway!

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[–] Butterphinger@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

hugs Civic si

you'll get all the motors and transmissions you need, widdle guy.

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[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You should try not tariffs. 

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

For some reason most of America decided that they needed a massive truck or SUV that could haul a semi trailer yet their needs 99.9% of the time are short trips and buying groceries.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Americans didn't decide it. Loophole in fuel efficiency laws ties the fuel economy footprint to carriage size. So to get around this, the manufacturers started making the cars larger, wider, and boxier. It's why even small sedans are several inches wider than they used to be, when you can find them at all.

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[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)
  1. Dogmatically sticking to fossil fuels.
  2. "Protecting" domestic manufacturering jobs by refusing to engage with your neighbours.
  3. Using tariffs to keep out affordable Chinese EVs that use tech everyone will probably be using in 15 to 20 years.

Sounds like a recipe for disaster. You can only artificially prop up your domestic market for so long. You'll inevitably fall behind even further on innovation with this approach.

Might be the first to make a CoPilot or ChatGPT powered car though.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Look, the Chinese EVs are a literal trade weapon. The other points I agree on. But China has subsidies on EVs even when sold to other countries because they aim to put competitors out of business globally. Otherwise they'd just be subsidizing EVs for domestic use.

So I can't blame them for tariffing those. But the solution is to invest heavily in domestic EVs, not to keep running with internal combustion...

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[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

I have an electric golf cart that I can take on any roads 35 mph or lower, I’m saving for a lithium upgrade so I can go farther than 15 miles round trip. I had my last vehicle stolen when cars were not available at the beginning of COVID. I bought a mini van to replace it, it cost twice what I wanted to pay but I have to have a good vehicle for the family and a sedan just wasn’t realistic. Luckily insurance also paid out over twice what my stolen vehicle originally cost me because of the market at the time. I love my mini van but I usually only drive it once or twice a week, most of my daily trips are in the golf cart.

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