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As promised, here are the key points from US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who has spoken to US media outlets this morning.

  • This is "not a war against Venezuela", he says - this follows strikes on the country on Saturday and the extraction of its president, Nicolás Maduro
  • The US will judge Venezuela by "what they do" next, Rubio says, adding that Washington will keep "multiple levers of leverage" to protect its interests
  • Speaking to ABC, Rubio says congressional authorisation wasn't needed before the operation "because this wasn't an invasion"
  • He says that he hopes Maduro's removal will lead to "a better Venezuela", but adds that the "number one objective is America"
  • Asked whether he thinks Interim President Delcy Rodríguez is now the legitimate president of Venezuela, he says the US does not believe the regime is legitimate
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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Riiight, and if Venezuela doesn't heel to the deranged orange buffoon they he will send more warplanes on "not be at war" bombing missions.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

"Special Military Operation", eh comrade?

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Kidnapping a president is an act of war, wtf!

Ngl though if someone wants to start a war with us, they can fucking have our shitstain "president".

[–] SlimePirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

There is no war in Ba Sing Se

Rubio's replies remind me of how a classic movie bully would respond when being asked by a teacher, or someone with authority.

"We're totally not fighting, right?" stare
pat on the shoulder

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rubio is a fucking war criminal. What the fuck happened to that guy? He was never a bastion of morality or anything, but over the past year, he's completely transformed into a monster.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's always been a bloodthirsty neocon with a fetish for regime change in Latin America. The Trump administration is just freeing him of the pretense of civility. Wait until they get to Cuba; he'll be demanding we make them a U.S. territory to, "free," them from communism.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He was one of the biggest cheerleaders for the genocide in Gaza.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And given how many American politicians support that genocide, that's saying something.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 108 points 2 days ago (13 children)

US not at war with Venezuela

Sure. And Russia is not at war with Ukraine...

Israel is not at war with Palestinians...

And most importantly: Lying propagandists are totally not at war with reality and truth.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

But Trump is still a pedophile. No matter what. At the end of the day. Trump will always be a pedophile.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 94 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess the term "act of war" becomes meaningless when the act is done by someone nobody will hold accountable.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s been meaningless since Vietnam

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Far earlier than that. Look up the career, and post career, of Smedly Buttler. He was a marine commander who publicly spoke out about how he had been used as a thug for capitalism.

Particularly in the creation of Banana Republics.

Prescott Bush tried to use Buttler to overthrow FDR, but Buttler went to Congress and reported the plot. Nothing was ever done and then we got two Bush presidents.

[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who'd thunk it someone from the damn Bush family pushing for conflict. Something Prescott's son, George, did and George's son, Dubya did. If Jeb actually got into office, surely he'd go to war too.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Jeb was already at war with his own charisma

[–] Ashenlux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh. I see. We are not at war. We are only bombing them, stealing their oil, and kidnapping their leader. Those are totally just friendly things normal countries do to each other.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I heard about bombs and Maduro, but oil is new. How are they even accomplishing that? Is US taking over their fields?

[–] festus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Trump and Rubio have said they'll coerce the remaining government to open up the oil fields to US companies.

Trump also said that the vice president can remain in charge as long as she does what the US wants. Understand the implication here - the Venezuela government are bad people who stole an election and commit human rights abuses, but that's all okay to the US. They can keep doing that - they just have to open up their oil fields. If the US had said "we're making Venezuela a democracy again", that would at least provide some moral cover. They're not though. It's just oil. The US doesn't even pretend to value rights and freedoms anymore.

When I was a teenager during the 2000s, I bought the BS that the US's motivations around the world were actually benevolent. The Iraq war might have been started on faulty information but at least they were spreading democracy. I thought the people saying the motivation was oil were overly cynical. Guess I was wrong.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're stealing oil tankers that leave the country and emptying the oil in the US

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Just dumping it in a field so they can pump it back out and pretend it was there the whole time.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So if another country comes and abducts trump we won’t be at war with them, got it

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Can you imagine a world where abducting Trump wasn't seen as an actor of war by just about everyone in the US? I wouldn't be upset to see Trump hung as a traitor, but if Canada came in and abducted him, I'm fairly sure I'd see it as a breech of our sovereignty. I'd actually be pretty conflicted at that point...

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

This is the Turd Reich’s Austria

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

It's regime change. Again. We've engaged in regime change many, many times in South and Central America (as well as other parts of the world) over the years, through various methods. This is, once again, the US asserting what it believes to be its "right" to rule over all of the Americas.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Russia is still not at war with Ukraine if you ask them

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 37 points 2 days ago (5 children)

They take him to New York of all places. Not just completely out of the southern hemisphere, but almost to the most northern point of the United States. Just to be in Mamdani's location, as a bullying snipe. Fuck these fascists.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just to be in Mamdani's location, as a bullying snipe.

Can you explain what you mean by this? I’m not sure I understand how this is anything to do with Mamdani.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 9 points 2 days ago

Why not hold him at a military base or anywhere else. Is there a legitimate reason for NY etc. Or is this anything more than a bullying show of power. That trump can do this and dump him of in Mamdani's back yard with no repercussion. He's a petulant man child. Maybe there's a minimally legitimate reason for this. But you know he's definitely childishly enjoying it for other reasons too.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago

United States or America executes various acts of war, killing literally boat loads of innocent sailors

United States or America directly attracts the same nation, murdering innocent soldiers and citizens

Just to be clear, we are not at war!

Well I could easily have been mistaken about that!

[–] adminofoz@lemmy.cafe 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

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[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Trying to gas light the population of two entire countries is pretty ballsy.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The US will judge Venezuela by "what they do" next, Rubio says, adding that Washington will keep "multiple levers of leverage" to protect its interests

Well that's a threat. I'm sure he means that the country's population should just bend over for the US so that American oil companies can come in unimpeded.

Fuck the USA

He says that he hopes Maduro's removal will lead to "a better Venezuela", but adds that the "number one objective is America

Right.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Either you are at war or you just murdered over 80 people only to capture one drug dealer and his wife. Which one is it?

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[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

"levers of leverage," running 32 separate instances of euphemism.exe simultaneously is making Marco-bot glitchy

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Something something Ba Sing Se

[–] saimen@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

There is no war in ~~Ba Sing Se~~ Venezuela

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