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[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 47 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Invades Poland with what? More drones?

[–] F_State@midwest.social 28 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The Poles have quietly been building one of the largest militaries on earth. They're not trying to let themselves get conquered or partitioned again. I don't think it would take much for them to go eagerly to war with a belligerent Russia. More likely Russian's next conquest will be against small and vulnerable countries like Georgia or the Baltics if they can get NATO to crumble (or Trump goes to war against NATO over Greenland).

[–] Knightfox@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The Poles have quietly been building one of the largest militaries on earth.

Look, I'm all for a prepared Europe, but this quote is a joke at best.

Poland has 300k troops (all numbers are active and reserve combined), Germany has 862k, France has 300k, Ukraine has ~2.2 million, China has 2.53 million, Russia has 3.57 million, the US has 2.8 million.

Poland might be building one of the largest European militaries, but they're still 10x smaller than the belligerent players.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In what world does Germany have 900k soldiers? Google says 180k active duty, you only get to 900k if you count someone who did mandatory service back when he was 18, which was like 30 years ago, and hasn't touched a gun since. If you define military as "people who train regularly and would be ready on a short notice", we have nowhere near as many (since mandatory service was effectively stopped 10+ years ago)

Point is, those numbers mix active and various qualities of "reserve" personnel

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[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Sorry, i should have been more precise myself and should have read your answer more clearly.

My point is, those numbers are a bad indicator for military strength.

Someone having gone through a few months of training decades ago doesn't make them a soldier who is ready to fight on a short notice.

Likewise, a country at war with less personnel but a huge stockpile of resources and working structures will likely conscript a lot of citizens anyway.

Poland doesn't have conscription at the moment (they stopped at a similar point in time as Germany), and their number seems to count only "proper" reservists. Germany counts everyone who at some point was part of the military as (legally) reservist, regardless of their current state, fitness, or motivation.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Russia moving their nukes to Georgia is the most telling sign yet that they're not serious. Our intercontinental ballistic missiles are marginally closer to you is not the brag they think it is. It means they've given up on military superiority and are now resulting to chest thumping in an attempt to intimidate, they wouldn't do that if they still had a functional military.

So I'm reasonably confident that Poland is safe from Russian aggression.

I also can't really see the US going to war in Greenland. It's a wholly unpopular idea both with civilians but also with the US military who know that all it would result in is them losing a significant chunk of their forces to hypothermia since the US is very weak in cold weather combat. They already have a US air base in Greenland, controlling the rest of the country wouldn't increase US national security and the only person who thinks it would is Trump.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think there wouldn't be any serious combat, to be honest. Denmark isn't that stupid, worst the yanks would get is a belligerent hunter with a rifle. So, all cold weather deaths would be on them, tbh. Besides, they have a military base on Greenland anyway, it's not like it's completely new to them

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

This is the thing though. They have a military base in Iceland and Denmark pretty much gives them free reign to do whatever they want in the country so they don't need to launch an actual invasion.

But of course Trump is an idiot so he's threatening this anyway even though it'll result in zero benefits for the United States.

The thing is though if they try and take Greenland by force it's going to involve them occasionally leaving the heated interior of the US military compound. I'm sure that's going to be a fun exercise for the troops.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

It makes more sense if you assume that everything trump says is a lie made to misguide his voters.

"Why Canada and Greenland?" makes a lot more sense when you ignore the bullshit about climate change being fake. Lots of currently frozen resources and potential farm land up there.

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Also the UK has a fancy new anti done laser which they're quite excited to field test via any willing ally.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

Nice propaganda you got there lmao

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Since we're already at the point of using riders on horseback, maybe it'll be tricycles by 2027?

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nah, you need both legs to turn the pedals on those

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago

If you strap the foot to the pedal, one will do

Dont forget Korean gooners!

Wait nm Xi has dibs that year

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

On horseback

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[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not liking that all of the time travelers on 4chan seem to be pointing towards a 2027 surprise like this.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The reaaon for that is that with Naval production rates, China will have the opportunity to invade Taiwan with numerical superiority over the US in the Pacific Theater until 2028.

That being said, there's only two 1-month windows out of the year where the weather is calm enough that they can pull off the amphibious invasion, and neither of them include June

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 days ago

How rough are those seas? Normandy was specifically done over rough seas to gather more of the surprise factor. Also, rough weather may protect against drones and stuff.

IDK much about this though, these are legit just questions.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

What seasons have good nuking weather?

[–] j4k3@piefed.world 21 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Russia's own state media already admits to over 1m lost in Ukraine. I doubt most of their nukes work. More likely, NK invades SK while China invades Taiwan. The hollowness of the USA quickly becomes clear when the doors fall off of all the Boeing aircraft. The neodymium supplied FPV drone army of AliEx then comes knocking. The US is then cut off from all advanced chip foundry fab nodes.

Meanwhile, the enormous fleet of starlink satellites are already on the verge of Kessler syndrome according to a recent white paper stating they are less than 3 days way. Just targeting one of them will cut off all access to space for decades rendering ICBMs obsolete or high risk where they are very likely to be damaged and return to the region that launched them. Cutting off access to space is a superpower total war move.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 19 points 5 days ago (5 children)

..More likely, NK invades SK ..

Yeaaaahh. I don't see that one happening. South Korea is on point with a military response that would be the end of North Korea. Have friends that are Korean and they say the military there does not fuck around. Even now, with the public perception of the boy bands and k-pop meaning the country's gone soft.. It's window dressing, and why the Kim family has NOT launched an invasion.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

If two people fight with hand grenades in a boxing ring, nobody wins, only maybe somebody loses more.

The Kims might be a lot of things, like crazy, cruel or narcicist, but they are definitively not suicidal.

[–] F_State@midwest.social 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think the South Korea military would triumph over the North Korean military but NK would cause substantial civilian casualties with the large amount of artillery it has along the border.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago

Yeah, that'd be about the only way.. then with the food rations going to NKs war effort, the northern populations would all-but starve.. Which is happening more than it should in that country, already.

The Kim family can't go extinct fast enough. What wretched people.

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I will say, with SK having the lowest birthrates in the world, and the general xenophobia and attitude towards immigration in eastern Asia, I'm expecting SK's military readiness to degrade significantly over the next 10 years. NK outliving SK was never on my bingo card before, but... Something's gotta change or it's going to get bad over there.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Would the NK army have the food for a fight? Do they have the physical size and stamina for such a gambit? I'd be surprised if their army has the drive to give it their all in a battle.

Have been reading for at least 20 years about how the NK population has a decidedly shorter and smaller stature now, after decades of food scarcity.

Apparently as far back as the mid-00's it affected the standards for conscription in the NK army. Not sure on that, but it would make sense.

It's hard to know actually, there's tons of propaganda on both sides, (and God knows, the Kim regime certainly won't offer up actual demographic information of that nature which is truthful) but from the photos I've seen, the NK soldiers look awfully small compared to the SK soldiers.

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That's just smaller hitboxes, bro.

But seriously, I think it would take some (probably modest) backing from another world power. Realistically China, maybe Russia, though China has been burned by NK before and Russia doesn't have anything to give right now. I think the most likely scenario is that the regime sees a waning SK as a chance and goes for it, whether it's a sane thing to do or not

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

Ooofff. Lets hope not. That would be horrific for the North Korean people and they're already in such a shit situation. :(

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago

Past a certain point, it means you can't carry gear, get exausted easily, can't travel fsr, etc.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Don't Star Link satellites come down on their own after a few years? There's no way they have high enough orbits to cause any sort of Kessler syndrome effect for anything other than about 2 years max and even that's doubtful. People really underestimate how truly massive LEO is, the satellites are not even particularly big ones. There's just no way.

[–] j4k3@piefed.world 5 points 5 days ago

Anton Petrov summarized the scientific white paper on YT. Maybe go watch it. Yes it is possible. It would still last decades. But probably would not propagate further up I think. Higher orbits can shut out space for centuries.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 days ago

AFAIK they specifically planned for this to happen to reduce the chances of Kessler syndrome (it does increase costs however)

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

What is with this Russian propaganda of them starting wars all over Europe and China despite them not having enough supplies to even support their "special military operation" in Ukraine?

Russian army is a fucking joke.

Regards a Finnish person ready to defend the borders of Europe from some low iq orcs with stones and spears (even though the xp gain for slaughtering them is negligible)

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 13 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Just pray that you are within a few miles of a detonation zone so you vaporize. Instant death. You do not want to be more than a few miles out of a blast zone; you're guaranteed a long painful death.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

My plan for the apocalypse is to do all the drugs I always wanted to, see if anyone else is up for the sex and rock'n'roll part, and then pick a place with a nice view to jump from.

I'm not shitting my organs out in the metro, have fun dealing with the mutants yourself.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 10 points 5 days ago

I'll finally get what I deserve then

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Only as long as it takes to load a gun.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Exactly. Billions would starve and die of radiation after a nuclear world war, it’s much better to get caught in the blast instead.

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Don't do that.

Don't give me hope.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Glances over to Caracas, Venezuela

Welp, that aged poorly.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 4 days ago

Why do people act like it's about age and disease? All of that can be managed.

Time has much more insidious effects, that can never be resolved.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

Yay! Finally WW3 will happen.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago
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