Dasus

I know it's not, jackass. That's why I said it doesn't apply

You've just no idea how ignorant you are? :D Yes, you specifically connected it to the concept. Negative or positive, doesn't matter. It shows how you conceptualise the idea.

That's why it's so wrong.

Empiricism would constitute both descriptive and prescriptive language, only prescriptive language less so. What you're trying to do is prescribe rules to language, and because you don't even understand what youre doing, you don't even have the words for it. Which is why you're now pathetically trying to pretend you knew those words before I pointed this out to you.

It's a good comparison to flat earthers, because you're equally ignorant of your own ignorance. It's a veery different subject, but youre still quite as unable to understand what you understand as they are.

Oh yeah "I no longer take you seriously, goodbye" as if that isn't the mating cry of every fucking moron proved utterly incorrect and who has to run away in shame.

My apartment building caught fire once. Some drunk had been smoking in the cellars in winter.

Barely noticed it in the fourth floor, a bit of smell, that's all.

The whole cellar floor burned. Fire department didn't even get people from above the third floor to go out due to smoke inhalation.

It's pretty much the same with all fires I can find in the news.

Finnish building regs are a bit different. For one you can't get through apartment doors without powertools. They're also good at isolating fire due two doors at the entrance, properly sealed.

So we don't have two staircases.

We worry more about preventing the fire from spreading instead of what to do if gets uncontrollable. Philosophical difference, really, not saying one approach is better than the other.

that empiricism doesn't apply to language

The fact that you don't understand how badly you're misusing those terms instead of talking about prescriptivism and descriptivism is what shows how little you know.

It's not "empicisim" you dolt, which you'd know if you had any understanding of the subject.

Now you're trying to use the terms, but fail hard.

I never even argued there's even a single prescriptive rule, and I never would, because unlike you, this isn't the first time I'm hearing the terms and I thus don't make prescriptive arguments. You can look at my comment, it's not been edited.

Point out a single prescriptive rule I even remotely imply. Oh there isn't one?

How odd.

I think you're proving my point, tbh. You didn't properly read my comment and you're going on about "empiricism of language", which means you don't understand the terms "prescriptive" / "descriptive".

If people actually read the comments they reply to ffs

Also the difference you're trying to explain is called prescriptivism vs descriptivism

I didn't say it does. Language is not prescriptive. I'm just wondering if this is as much a scam as Flat Earth. Insofar that I doubt the sincerity of people saying that, but I realise that might just be because I'm biased for some reason.

I just have never heard anyone saying "jif" and hearing it makes me think of a semi-computer-illiterate boomer who's reading a file-ending aloud to their nephew while never having heard anyone say it out loud.

Again, I realise that's probably not true, but it's the mental image I get.

Thanks, but I don't really know what you mean by backstairs, as most apartments I know just open to the one staircase. It's not way thin, but I'm just saying most of the ones in my city were wider and thicker. The ones which exist, that is. There's only some of them left in the center and other apartment buildings are basic concrete shits.

My point is rather that it needn't be a bank or anything like that to be somewhat fancy, that used to be in style... some time. Early 20th century, maybe?

In Nordic languages (Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Finnish), 'Y' is always a vowel sound, similar to saying English "ee" (like in "week") but with tightly rounded lips, often described as a "duck face" or a mix between "ee" and "oo". It's a high, front, rounded vowel (IPA: /y/ or /yː/), distinct from English 'Y' and varies slightly in length (short vs. long) depending on the following consonants.

Like in "Ymir"

You're assuming "the public" has reached a uniform consensus, which it certainly hasn't.

I have literally never heard someone say "jif" outside of an online post claiming people do.

We're not anywhere near that point yet.

Never have I ever heard anyone saying "jif" outside of a humouristic clip / antagonistic post online.

That's pronounced "yif", actually.

Lol kinda basic older apartment building made of stone, I think you might be American, lol.

Those stairs aren't even that thick, tbh.

I do get the vibe you're talking about, but honestly the stone buildings in my city have wider and more elaborate staircases even when they never had any sort od business in the building. I'd love an apartment in one of those, if they weren't solely in the center of the city, because the thick stone walls in them make it so you can hardly hear anything your neighbour is doing. Also the ceilings are tall af.