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There is no way the feds that I thought could remotely spawn a hobgoblin in my room are this incompetent at putting black bars on text. phoenix-think

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 71 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They fired and/or failed to retain all the people who know what they're doing. The empire has become so reliant on systems it doesn't understand that it doesn't know how to maintain those systems anymore. Just one more sign of the empire in decline.

Don't worry though the Dems will come in eventually and fix these systems that serve only to protect the ruling elite and claim it's some great victory that saved America

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 63 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Liberals dream of the multicultural ICE raid where nobody is doing it because they're racist. They're just following orders.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We're doing it because the correct paperwork was filed saying that we have to do it! If you don't like the laws then you should vote to change them! Until then though the adults in the room need to follow the rules! lady-doge

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

Pirate raids in the Caribbean can only continue if those brave pirates have cultural awareness training. That is a diverse region where speaking to their hostages in Spanish might be seen as insensitive.

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 48 points 3 months ago (3 children)

They fired anyone competent in the FBI for being "libs" with trump 2 because trump was mad Biden admin FBI investigated him for Jan 6 and shit

This admin is stupid

IDK why people on this forum keep acting they're actually super smart and this is some 5d chess plo

KASH PATTEL IS A THE HEAD OF THE FBI HE IS A PODCASTER

MARCO RUBIO DID A SPEECH THE OTHER DAY HIGH ON COKE

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

MARCO RUBIO DID A SPEECH THE OTHER DAY HIGH ON COKE

This rocks

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

IDK why people on this forum keep acting they're actually super smart and this is some 5d chess plo

I mean... Properly redacting documents is hardly 5D chess. I think US politicians are some of the dumbest fucks on earth but I'm still fairly surprised at the level of incompetence on display here.

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everyone who was competent in the Republican party is either a) dead

B) backed bush or cruz in 2016

So when trump won and picked in loyalists they weren't allowed

Fucking Dr Oz and Marco Rubio are probably the two most competent people in the administration

Everyone else is former fox News or a podcaster

I think trump 1 caused a lot of Republican party neo con brain drain and trump 2 has killed the party of any intelligent evil

The neocons that are left are legacy members of Congress

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Oh, absolutely. But this still seems like an exceptional level of stupid even in that context.

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

MARCO RUBIO DID A SPEECH THE OTHER DAY HIGH ON COKE

Source? Want to see

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

It's like I'm a Chapo listener all over again

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m of two minds on this.

One mind says, this is the result of generations of conservatives believing their own marketing about the state being bloated and useless and can be done more efficiently by making it more private sector-like. The previous generations were just using it to appeal to the rubes but this one actually means it. So they’ve purged everyone with the institutional knowledge to keep the basic functions up and now they’ve been caught flat-footed.

The other mind says, this is a feature, not bug. The disregard for the “norms and standards” extends to not going through the fig leaf processes of protecting the image of TPTB. They get that these systems are so ingrained and the populous is so allergic to even the mildest pushback that they can just flaunt that they’re letting the dirty laundry air. What’s anyone gonna do about it?

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One mind says, this is the result of generations of conservatives believing their own marketing about the state being bloated and useless and can be done more efficiently by making it more private sector-like. The previous generations were just using it to appeal to the rubes but this one actually means it. So they’ve purged everyone with the institutional knowledge to keep the basic functions up and now they’ve been caught flat-footed.

This is truly the primary issue. These idiots believe the government is really large, despite decades of austerity.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

The two takes aren’t entirely mutually exclusive. They can both think that the state needs to be shrunk and that the negative consequences are irrelevant.

[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 42 points 3 months ago

Why is the state so terrifyingly effective at times, and so bumblingly incompetent at others? One reason is that when you're the state -- especially when you're the feds -- you can get away with a ton of stuff an individual or a small private group would get absolutely nailed for. This is partly because you have so much influence over investigating and prosecuting everything, and partly because you have so many resources to begin with. You're on easy mode most of the time, so most of your personnel don't have to be too sharp.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There are 38,000 people working for the FBI and I guarantee you only about 10% of that number are seriously competent people.

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They fired all the competent people

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably got a good chunk of them yeah

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Trump likes loyalists and neocons weren't loyal in 2016 so he picked his guys and since then the GOP is becoming the trump party

For decades before trump there was a neocon pipeline that produced intelligent evil like you saw in the bush administration

But trump chose his loyalists in trump 1, his lawyers and friends,

And now trump 2 is podcasters and Fox News

He has killed the pipeline of talent

[–] Futterbinger@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I haven't made up my mind as to whether or not it was intentional or a fuckup.

Either way it serves to muddy the waters around the veracity of what we info is released.

Even if the Epstein files were released unredacted in their entirety, there simply too much information there for any one person to grasp without devoting to it the same effort as a PhD thesis. The way things are being released is compounding this.

It's made worse by:

  • The Piecemeal Release.
  • Redacted portions.
  • Redacted portions that can be unredacted.
  • Those same portions properly redacted in later releases.
  • Documents first being released then taken off the DOJ website.
  • Documents released by different entities. (DOJ, Congress, Estate)

It all just makes it more difficult to gather the information coherently, know what is relevant, and trust what you're reading. Huge portions of the population will not trust this source, or that source. Some will refuse to believe the unredacted bits aren't just made up. It'll be nearly impossible to get the information together before another bit is released, or another bit disappears again and hard to verify it even existed in the first place.

Intentional or not dragging it out like this acts like a pressure release valve for the public's furor. By the time it's "all" released it will have been so long and the process of vetting any tidbit of info will be so convoluted that anyone who still cares will be seen as a kook and a crank.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

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It's made worse by:

The Piecemeal Release.
Redacted portions.
Redacted portions that can be unredacted.
Those same portions properly redacted in later releases.
Documents first being released then taken off the DOJ website.
Documents released by different entities. (DOJ, Congress, Estate)

It all just makes it more difficult to gather the information coherently, know what is relevant, and trust what you're reading. Huge portions of the population will not trust this source, or that source. Some will refuse to believe the unredacted bits aren't just made up. It'll be nearly impossible to get the information together before another bit is released, or another bit disappears again and hard to verify it even existed in the first place.

sounds like your typical flood the zone strategy. Just wait for the book to come out.

[–] companero@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

Red herring maybe. My understanding is that there was nothing truly groundbreaking there, so they may have done it on purpose to devalue the other redactions.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

That's not fair; you can't highlight blackened text on a piece of paper, so you're supposed to follow the honor system and not highlight it on your pc.

[–] WafflesTasteGood@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

The only person that knew how to redact text properly got let go during the budget cuts.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The GOP is really only competent at these things:

  • Winning elections
  • War

Nothing else.

[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 months ago

a 5 year old could get america into war. and it's not like the gop is exceptionally good at any other aspect of it

[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

They're good at starting them at least.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago

The GOP is good at funnelling profits to the military industrial complex. They haven't really shown an aptitude for fighting or winning wars.

[–] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Adobe Acrobat has a redaction tool. Either the redaction tool sucks or no one there has an active Creative Cloud subscription

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 6 points 3 months ago

I doubt they didn't know how to use the correct tool.

I think its on purpose. There are actual documents with significantly more evidence and shocking content. Those have been hidden or destroyed.

Then they plant an "oopsie, we used the wrong redaction tool" on documents that are bad enough to satisfy us, but not terrible enough to lose their voters, and we are now distracted with them.

It's the oldest trick in the book: make the person feel smart because they're outmaneuvering you. We feel like geniuses for finding the loophole around the redactions, that's likely what they wanted from the start.

[–] AF_R@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The redact tool takes a shitload of time to process every highlighted area so the dumbass failson analyst probably thought there’s no difference between that and just putting black highlight or box layer on top, which is much faster

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

They don't actually care what we think and nothing will come of it. So why bother?