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The huge corporate companies don't want the workers to do better, they want them to make the company more money.
However, there are companies that are trying to benefit their employees, customers, and community, they just tend not to pay high wages or be on the stock market, and are usually much smaller in their areas of operation.
Yep, and we could solve traffic and a lot of other problems as well as making things better for workers by making WFH standard. I remember around covid I could zip downtown no problem, now the roads are fucking parking lots. I have to spend hours a week doing the most dangerous activity at my own expense. I think it's mostly because of old fashioned thinking that jobs should suck.
Most jobs on the planet can't be done with WFH, because they require doing stuff with your hands.
The actual solution to traffic is: viable alternatives to driving, such as rapid, comfortable, accessible transit and cycling infrastructure. (once that's done, let's ban private cars in cities altogether, they're the worst thing to ever happen to cities).
at my own expense
I reckon if companies were required to pay you for your commute (or, let's say, a standardised one hour extra per day if being physically in the office is required, so as not to incentivise people living far from work), there'd be a lot more WFH.
It's even hassle to cross the road with all these cars tbh and i almost risked life 2 times because of too much cars but whatever, capitalism must continue
The busier it is the more likely there's this one idiota who thinks their time is worth more than yours so they forget every rule in the book and almost run people over to get somewhere "faster".
Faster is in quotes because YOU ARE RACING TO THE NEXT RED LIGHT PAL every car you jumped over is gonna meet you there...........
A company I used to work for switched to 4-day weeks for a time and everyone was much happier, especially those with children or other caring responsibilities. Productivity was the same or better.
But, predictably, they later did a U-turn and forced everyone back to 5-day weeks. The justification given was ‘some’ people weren’t always taking the extra day off. No figures given, no additional info.
I, and everyone else, strongly suspected it was just the C-suite not liking the idea of people getting the same pay for one day less. Purely ideological.
A lot of what happens in business is performance theater, not actually being productive. It's one of the reasons bosses like AI do much, because if gives a magnificent impression of doing lots of work, even if in some cases you have to hire more people to correct that slop afterwards.
It's the same for going back to the office. They want to see the worker show being performed in the building even though working from home is usually more productive.
My boss give us shit if we call off for being sick. It's such a toxic environment and I hate it
I was the exact opposite kind of boss and got great results.
“I don’t care why I care how often”
At least I would get advanced notice when people weren’t afraid to call me.
Also when I called around to fill shifts I wouldn’t guilt trip people “can you cover for bill? No? Okay thanks for answering “
The other bosses would call me to call their employees because they would answer me. One of my favorites was calling another boss and saying “Claire’s going to come in”. “What? She told me she couldn’t make it!!!”
“If I were you I wouldn’t mention that when she comes in. Just be happy the shift is filled”
Respect goes both ways at work. I got more work out of my team than anybody because I had their back as much as they had mine.
Literally toxic if everyone has to show up sick
I am immunocompromised and started wfh full time because everyone was coming in sick. I sacrificed advancing my career here so I wouldn't get sick all the time. Full time wfh folks don't get to advance and get demoted to the lowest position in the company. I was already at the lowest position so I had nothing to lose.
Yes, I'm looking for a new job already. The market is abysmal right now, so I don't see me getting out of this job any time soon.
Good luck with the job hunt, and even more with staying healthy
Thank you!
I had a disciplinary for calling in sick, the most recent time I was "nearly dying" from the flu.
Ive got it in writing somewhere from the meeting report "I had the flu the other week and still made it in, just take 2 paracetamol and get on with it" and "the flu isnt contagious so you didnt have to worry about infecting other staff"
Next time that piece of paper surfaces im getting it framed.
When I worked in big box retail we were only allowed to call in sick 2 days in a row. Once I had food poisoning from bad oysters, so I tried to call in on the third day.
Of course, they told me I couldn't. So I dragged my ass out of bed, chugged a bottle of OTC antinausea syrup, drove to work, walked into my boss's office, grabbed her trashcan, and threw up in it.
Suddenly I was allowed to call in sick.
Next time come into office and cough all over your boss and their desk.
I wfh full time so I don't get sick from my coworkers coming in ill. I'm immunocompromised, so if I get sick enough, I could just die. The whole company, except me, has been dealing with covid for the past two weeks. Last time I had covid, I was almost hospitalized, and that was before I was put on immunosuppressants. I could very well die from covid now
The new Oklahoma Superintendent first goal was to cut off late start that students have been enjoying for fucking years. Asshole said that it was limiting their learning.
I didn't think anyone could be worse then Ryan Walter's but they found a way.
Unfortunately they turned schools into glorified daycares so they always say it "endanger" students to let them off early or get to school after parents go to work.
Maybe sync school and work schedules? Why does this sound so crazy? It's hugely disruptive that these schedules are different.
A lot of GOP politicians are trying to get kids back to work and out of school, so I guess they're technically doing their part.
If they weren't so fucking ~~stupid~~ evil they could make a lot more money.
She ain’t wrong. But think about the shareholders.
That's the thing though, even for shareholders it would be better.
But they don't THINK it would be better, so it won't short term. Which is what truly matters
Not if you only think 1 quarter at a time
Millennia of evolution have shown that humans thrive when they’re just sitting around and vibing with each other. As long as you don’t need anything that requires an economic surplus or specialised work force, like, say, infrastructure.
That environment of our evolution, like the Garden of Eden, no longer exists. We’ve created a new environment in which sitting around and vibing is no longer sufficient to thrive. Without the economic output we all die. See this first episode of Connections for details.
How much work do we actually need to do to maintain our lifestyle? I'd say a lot less than we're currently doing. Just think about all the waste that goes into Bitcoin. What about insurance, or any number of jobs. Humans create systems (or that's what I got out of that episode of connections) but those systems are not necessarily efficient at benefiting equally.
Definitely students need more sleep, right through to university. According to this study humans are still adolescent from 9 till 32. Scientists identify five ages of the human brain over a lifetime Want to protect human potential ? That would be a good starting point. It's sensible even from a purely utilitarian profit focused view of study and work.
THEY are terrified of what the masses would do if we had any free time.
Funny way to spell exploitation
Unironically. Watch what happens when unemployment gets over 6%. Occupy in 2008. BLM in 2014. J6 in 2021.
Left, right, and center, shit pops off when work drops off.
I don't have the research ability to prove it, but I think there was absolutely causation between the closing/cancelling of sporting events during COVID and a rise in violence. At least until they completely locked down and everyone stayed inside.
My countries gouvernment has recently proposed a set of laws that would limit the maximum length of homework to 1 hour a day for 0-IV and 2 hours for V-XII
It would also make all homework for vacations optional
At my last job HR announced that they had found studies showing increased productivity and employee satisfaction when people had one 3-day weekend a month. From there on we were given a choice of any Monday or Friday off, but we had to take one.
My friend: "Yeah, that's fucked up not paying you."
"It's PTO."
"That's fucked forcing you to use your PTO."
"It's on top of our PTO. We get an extra 12-days a year now."
I'm sure someone will find a cynical take on this story.
Lemmy: CaPitALisM!
Gosh! I left out a really important part! That business wasn't part of a monopoly or cartel. Well, ironically, we did have a basic monopoly, no one else did what we did, but we weren't a subsidiary of a megacorp, if you get my drift.
LOL, two years in a row our CEO told the board we would lose money on purpose to build our people and products. They applauded him. We fucked around and made a profit anyway. Got FAT Christmas bonuses!
If you think that's a one-off company, you should hear how Quik Trip stores operate. Imagine people dedicating a career to working in a convenience store. That's another story. (And an amazing one.)
Work hard, get experience, stack resume, move on until you land at a solid employer.
When my two friends and I moved to NW Florida, we knew no one, had no family. One guy started at an oil change place, way below his skill set and experience. Kept quitting and moving to better jobs. Within a decade he was the top service manager for the top car dealer in the area, clocking 6 digits, treated with utmost respect, seat at the table.
I don't get the take about "CaPitALism". If your employer did what you say then they did so in spite of the system of capitalism, not thanks to it. A good employer will set their sights long-term, aiming to keep their employees happy in order to build a stable future, but that's not what the system rewards, the system rewards short-term profits.
Also, the last story kind of reminds me of "pull yourself up by your bootstraps"-rhetoric (the term also drives me insane because it's literally against the laws of physics). Are there people who work hard, take steps to advance their careers and achieve success because of their efforts? Absolutely! Are there also other people who try just as hard and don't achieve the same successes, either due to other struggles or just due to random chance? Most definitely.
When I finished school and had my Bachelors, the only thing I thought was, "Glad I am done with that bullshit."
I was lucky to do college debt free by going back years later and having a nest egg from years of working to pay off my costs, but so many kids go at 17 because that is what they are told to do and have debt for life from a degree that that they likely won't use because they have never worked and don't know where they want a career.
Now with AI taking away white collar jobs, I think it will be harder for kids to justify. Why would they put themselves through all that stress and work for no guarantee of a career?
We don't output more and aren't as easily controlled with more free time and better schedules. Nothing I do with puritanical anything at this point. It's just business and politicians being cruel and selfish.
To an extent. Like the workers that are now the only members of a project's team yeah they can't go on vacation until that project is done unless you want delays. But learn from your mistakes. Have more people in the project to begin with. Train more than one person in key areas. Your project will happen faster with similar resources and the people involved will be happy since they can take a vacation.
Just so you know, this is often referred to as the "Bus Factor", aka "how many employees would need to get hit by a bus for us to suffer a catastrophic loss of knowledge/manpower?" Way too many places have a bus factor of 1, meaning if that single employee isn't available for whatever reason, everything around them grinds to a halt. You usually want that number to be BIG as often as possible.
advocating "hustle culture" is often virtue signalling right? "I iz very hard worker and people should appreciate me" or something?
I can only speak for myself, but I used to be like that because of poor mental health as hard physical work, and alcohol, kept me from facing my problems.
Edit: forming coherent sentences is apparently hard today 🙃
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Tweet from "Vivian" @suchnerve
love how basically every study says that students do better in school with less homework & later start times and workers do better with more vacation days & shorter shifts, but we do the exact opposite in this godforsaken country because Puritanical feelings apparently beat facts
Because they dont want us learning