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[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Capitalism will literally eliminate sunshine before allowing profits to fall

[–] supdawg813@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Once every year we'll reproduce a small part of the extinction event that took out the dinosaurs by dumping a literal ton of microscopic glitter into the atmosphere. Our planet will build a resistance to climate change. pepe-silvia

There is absolutely no way this can backfire before we've rammed it in as a more reasonable option than simply not sacrificing our planet to the altar of increasing rates of profit. porky-happy

[–] DogThatWentGorp@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

Eliminate sunshine and create a booming artificial sunshine market*

Diversifying into sun blocking tech, UV lamps/grow operations and VR like I'm a knockoff, capitalist version of the robots from the Matrix for those sweet gains come 2035 😎😎😎😎.

[chat this period of history blows so much ass]

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

This is the more incompetent version of The Matrix. In the films, humans blotted out the sun in order to cut AI off from their main power source. But IRL, they're blotting out the sun in order to allocate more resources to LLMs.

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago

ah yes. a plan with no notable consequences i can think of. i will throw 5 billion dollars at it

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago

so-far dumbest and most evil

Auriel's bow and the vampire lord questline

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

#RaidShadowLegends

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Starting premise of Snowpiercer.

[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Good news, we invented Snowpiercer from the short novel "Don't do Snowpiercer" that was based on a book called Snowpiercer.

IIRC, when a volcano erupted in the 1990s (Pinatubo), temperatures dropped by ~0.1C on average, but crop yields of corn dropped by ~10%. Plants really need sunlight.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This still doesn't dissuade me from thinking that inducing catastrophic seismic activity in yellowstone is a good idea

spoiler/idontactuallythinkitsagoodidea


[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

I'm gonna say it. I'm glad the rate of profit has a tendency to fall, because fuck these people.

markkks-juggalo

[–] blunder@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I love to block out the sun for revenue

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

Real Plan to Blot Out the Sun and Reverse Global Warming

internet-delenda-est

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

You know that sun thing? The thing that is so regular that shit like Stonehenge still aligns?

Capitalism says we must start regulating it.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Anything but reduce CO2 and methane emissions I guess.

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Bike to work if you can/take public transit, don't eat meat, don't use AI, and yell at your local politicians.

IT'S NOT THAT HARD PEOPLE

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago

Bike to work if you can/take public transit, don't eat meat, don't use AI

All good, all only solutions if everyone does them (and even then, only partial). This is not an individual problem, there are no individual solutions.

and yell at your local politicians.

"Yell". Haha. Yes. illegal-to-say

(The only actual solution is proletarian revolution.)

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

individualism wew lad

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Yell at your local politicians

This especially.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They did this in Highlander 2. Any article that mentions this asinine plan, should have to in lude that this literally happened in Highlander 2

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

the highlander sequels didn't happen. Just the original and the TV series

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And while I love Christopher Lambert in highlander, Duncan is the better McLeod

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I really should go watch this now that I'm not a kid

The series is 90s shlock don't get me wrong, but Duncan is a more likeable and developed character than Connor. Makes sense since they had way more time to flesh him out.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Agreed there. Big fan of the show

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

the highlander sequels didn't happen

That is the world i want to live in

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I will repost my comment from the other day where this can of worms was opened, because it's actually very fucking important:

Increasing the albedo of Earth (i.e. the total reflectivity) is a very different concept to "blocking out the sun". If it was a gas or particles reflecting energy in regions outside the visible spectrum, say thr infrared, for the most part people, solar panels and plants wouldn't notice. There are obvious concerns about secondary effects, but aren't we seeing already the primary effects from the opposite, that being greenhouse gas emissions? We are already doing geoengineering, whether we like it or not, and scientifically looking for solutions isn't a bad idea.

Now, should this be in the hands of a startup called Stardust or whatever shit? Absolutely fucking not, this should be a collective worldwide scientific discussion and effort, on the order of magnitude of the LIGO experiment, the LHC or similar projects. But as always, this is a matter of execution within capitalism and not of the theory, which needs a lot of scientific development and, yes, experimentation.

Useful experiments that we have already unintentionally carried out with "inverse greenhouse gases" are for example the emissions from transoceanic merchant ships. In 2020, regulations about sulphur dioxide emissions in merchant ships entered internationally, and abruptly cut 80% of SO2 emissions from said ships. As a result, given SO2's inverse greenhouse effect, there has been a significant undesired increase in global radiation absorption.

We NEED to push for the study of these phenomena internationally by public entities and actual scientists in research institutions, and not let journalists and companies muddy up the topic as has happened with climate change overall.

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We already know the cooling effect of aerosols, including SO2. Noone is blocking academic research on impacts of adding/removing aerosol to change Earth's albedo. In fact we already know the impact, what is the lifetime of individual aerosol in the atmosphere, their negative (cooling) global warming potential, and their deleterious effect on human health as pollutant.

You can already show on a piece of paper why this experiment is not worth doing. The maximum lifetime of aerosol in the stratosphere is 2 years, you have to keep injecting and replacing the aerosol to maintain the cooling effect. Production of these reflective aerosol uses energy (i.e. produce GHG) so as the greenhouse gases accumulate in the atmosphere, you need more and more aerosol injection to offset the warming effect. On paper this is already a terrible idea, not even accounting for the additional particulate matter pollution from the fallout of this reflective aerosol injection, tldr, it's going to end up in someone's lung and other unintended consequences of injecting tons of dirt into Earth's stratosphere.

Why should we waste resources to conduct planetary scale geoengineering experiment for an idea that is already bad on paper? Remember there is no control experiment for planetary scale geoengineering, there is no Earth 2. Thousands of serious climate scientists waste their time writing IPCC reports every 5 years and arguing over countless hours and the solutions have been the same since 1990, reduce oil and gas consumption, plant trees, make solar panels and wind turbines.

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In a vacuum I’m glad that people are trying to come up with creative ideas to combat climate change since you never know what might work.

The issue is that in the US this is often being done in place of and not in addition to stuff we know needs to be done like restructuring cities around public transportation, encouraging people to reduce or eliminate meat consumption, etc.

The amount of times I’ve seen people try and justify the massive energy and water consumption LLM are using because the “AI” will solve the issue for us is way too many. Like even if it was an actual AI being worked on it’s very likely going to just tell us to do things we already knew we should’ve been doing and that’s even if you can artificially create sentience which I feel like is a a big if.

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Blotting out the sun will never work lol, this is 100% scam

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I wouldn't say "never". We've seen in recent years that reducing emissions in China can reduce the reflectivity of the planet and increase temperature everywhere in the short term, so I think it's well within reason to say that "blotting out the sun" can work.

The problem is that once you start doing something like this you're locked into doing it forever, and we don't have anywhere near the level of understanding of the knock on effects of this type of geoengineering.

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They are promising $200M annual revenue by 2030 and potential IPO for sprinkling dust into the stratosphere FOR PROFIT. Who's gonna pay them? If this is a somewhat feasible solution, people would've talked about it years prior in academia and at IPCC meetings. Any serious discussion about mitigating climate change boils down to yelling at politicians to put solar panel, wind turbines and better public transport as the only feasible solution on the global scale. Not feeding cows seaweed to reduce methane emissions, not community garden, not paper straw, and certainly not blotting out the sun. This is NFT level scam.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Oh I'm not saying that this isn't a scam, you're right about that. But in theory I could see a government doing this and it working in a technical sense.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

Yeah, this is straight Bond-villain shit:

eco-porky Attention people of Earth. We are going to block out the Sun! No, not in a sinister way; to lower the temperature. And if you don't pay us...TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS every year in perpetuity we'll cook the planet!

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Blotting out the sun already has been proven to work. Maritime trade in 2020 implemented heavy regulations on Sulphur Dioxide emissions that essentially overnight reduced said emissions by 80%.

Accidentally, it turns out Sulphur Dioxide was carrying out reverse greenhouse effect and global temperatures are rising much faster than before as a consequence.

This research should NOT be in the hands of private capital, but burying our heads in the sand regarding climate science and geoengineering is a horrible idea.

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Oh yeah this specific plan and the way they’re going about it is garbage. Was speaking more generally about solutions.

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

An IPO for blocking out the sun is WILD work i-cant

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

These are the same people that will tell you that communists have disdain for the idea of anything being sacred. Keeping political power out of the hands of reactionary clergy is worse than taking away the fucking sun, apparently.

[–] musicpostingonly@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

It's frightening that this is what we are swinging for versus actually curtailing something. The treats must flow. Damn the torpedoes!

[–] determinism2@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

What possible regulation could exist that pertains to blotting out the sun on a global scale?

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think if pissrael wasn't going to get destroyed by climate change the west would not even bother with this "attempt" at solving the problem.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the west would not even bother with this "attempt" at solving the problem

This isn't an attempt, it's a grift. Nothing will make capitalists seriously tackle climate change, regardless of what happens to "Israel" or any other country.

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. But they have to throw a bone because the zionist lobbies know what's coming and probably would like to avoid that. Not that they can do anything about tho

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

That will have an effect (among other similar interests), but it's essentially guaranteed to manifest as grifts (such as this one). Like you said, they're throwing a bone. It's a fig leaf to pacify concerns and cover a grift.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

"it's simple michael, we'll just commandeer the entire air fleet of several countries in perpetuity"

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago