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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 241 points 5 days ago (8 children)

What IS a fucking hate symbol then????

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 182 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

LGBTQ and trans flags

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 85 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 46 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Flown properly, the American flag can be,

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

That is the farthest thing from a hate symbol you could find.

An upside down national flag is a sign of distress which means you care enough about your nation to consider the current moment as an aboration from the norm.

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[–] dumbass@piefed.social 48 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 days ago (3 children)
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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Too late it did what it was meant to do. It told all the Nazis in the USA: "We don't think Nazis are bad, come join us".

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 115 points 5 days ago

Combine this policy with declaring anti-fascists as terrorists, and I think a pattern is emerging here.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 53 points 5 days ago

Please put an NSFW tag on that image, it can get you in trouble if you accidentally show it in public in many countries, for good reason.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 91 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Ah, a potentially divisive hand gesture, inscrutable, controversial and puzzling. What on Earth could it mean?

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 95 points 5 days ago

Oh for a moment there I was beginning to doubt the direction of USA.
Well I guess it's still full steam ahead to dismantle democracy and introduce an authoritarian dictatorship.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 69 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNTIED STATES IS CALLING FOR LAWMAKERS TO BE EXECUTED FOR UPHOLDING THE LAW! WTF IS GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS SHIT?

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

NOTHING AT ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE EITHER CONTENT WITH THIS OR TOO COWARDLY TO DO ANYTHING!

[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Following the double negative rule: Anti Anti Fascists leaves you with

Fascists

The USA is dropping the mask for all the world to see.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 39 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (16 children)

AND STILL PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE EVERYTHING IS NORMAL! AT THIS POINT I WANT TO SEE MASS PANIC SO I KNOW I'M NOT CRAZY! AND I'M IN CANADA, I WANT MASS PANIC IN CANADA! I AT LEAST WANT THIS SHIT TAKEN SERIOUSLY ENOUGH THAT CANADIANS STOP FUCKING GOING TO THE STATES AS IF EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

It would be nice if Canadians would also stop voting for politicians who lead Canada in the same direction as the USA. We need to turn left, not right.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 77 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Brief anecdote. In school, we used to draw swastikas on everything in order to get others in trouble or to make ourselves seem like assholes. At no point did we consider what we were doing ok, it was just kids riding the edge of something they couldn’t understand for the sake of ignominy. Even we, as ignorant as we were, recognized that the swastika was a hate symbol and thoroughly unacceptable, we were, again, just assholes.

I’ve been saying this quite a lot but this culture war bodes poorly.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

On a similar tangent, I find hilarity in poorly drawn swastikas - or to use an entertaining but horrendously ablest term, a spastika.

I make no apology for equating the sort of dickhead that scrawls this shit everywhere in adult life with the sort of clueless fuckwit that tests sockets with a fork, and couldn't pour water out of a boot even if the instructions were on the soles.

I don't often like punching down on the lesser-intellectual folk (mainly because I'm dumb as rocks for 23 hours of the day myself) but this is one of the few times I enjoy the opportunity.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

For context that means a guy like this would now be allowed to serve. They check your tattoos when you come in so this doesn’t qualify as a hate symbol now.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Next thing you know they'll be making this guy Secretary of Defense or something

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 58 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Trump’s dream of Nazi America is taking shape.

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[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I am all for reclaiming symbols stolen by fascists, but we all know this is absolutely not what they are getting to.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It wasnt even 24 hours before the the colossal apopcalyptic blowback on this made them reverse their decision.

Now we just have to wonder why they want to make hate symbols okay in the military.. I'm sure its totally not anything to do with trying to build a white nationalist military that will gleefull obey illegal orders and slaughter the "other" in the streets at piggy boys command.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

great; now hegseth can finally finish his chest tattoo

[–] DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago

“It’s going to be a maze”

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 47 points 5 days ago

Instead, the Coast Guard will classify the Nazi-era insignia as 'potentially divisive' under its new guidelines. The new policy, set to take effect Dec. 15, similarly downgrades the definition of nooses and the Confederate flag

Threatening racial lynchings is "potentially divisive" but not hateful, apparently. I guess there are very fine people on both sides of the white supremacist lynchings debate.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Literally the defining symbol for the term 'hate symbol'.

Hey, what's a hate symbol? Oh, you know, like a swatztika. Ohh, right of course, how could I be so fucking dumb? Jesus CHRIST. Dude, calm down, it's-- NO. PUNCH ME IN THE FACE, I'M TRASH.

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Why would white supremacists see swastikas as hate symbols?

[–] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

In the us, the default country ofc

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[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

It's fucked up how normal (and I say this loosely) and unsurprising this actually sounds in today's world.

If you told me a couple years back that America would openly turn fascist, I would have said you're batshit crazy.

[–] misfitx@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

I studied history and have been telling people this for over a decade but most people think I'm batshit crazy.

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[–] TheMilk 28 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I'm still wondering when time travelers are gonna fix this timeline.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

They have declared that nooses and swatzikas are not hate symbols, time to test that by drawing a picture of a Nazi being hanged I guess

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

I know its a drama we're past by now but I can't help but think about the people who defended Platner with the line "the military would have stopped him if it was really a Nazi tattoo." Because most of us knew that in fact they would not, and now they have put it in writing.

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[–] M137@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Turn off adblocker or join for $1"

No, fuck you.

[–] dai@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Military service will reportedly no longer classify 'divisive' swastika as 'hate' symbol

David McAfee

November 20, 2025 2:49PM ET

Military service will reportedly no longer classify 'divisive' swastika as 'hate' symbol Shutterstock

Trump administration insiders are furious over reporting that the U.S. Coast Guard, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security, will no longer classify the swastika as a symbol of "hate."

According to the Washington Post, the branch of military service has decided that swastikas and nooses are considered "potentially divisive" but not hateful.

As the news outlet reports, "The U.S. Coast Guard will no longer classify the swastika, an emblem of fascism and white supremacy inextricably linked to the murder of millions of Jews and that more than 400,000 U.S. troops who died fighting against in World War II, as a hate symbol, according to a new policy that takes effect next month."

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The report continues:

"Instead, the Coast Guard will classify the Nazi-era insignia as 'potentially divisive' under its new guidelines. The new policy, set to take effect Dec. 15, similarly downgrades the definition of nooses and the Confederate flag, though display of the latter remains banned, according to documents reviewed by The Washington Post."

The Post also reports, "Certain historic displays or artwork where the Confederate flag is a minor element are still permissible, according to the policy."

"Though the Coast Guard is not part of the Defense Department, the service has been reworking its policies to align with the Trump administration’s changing tolerances for hazing and harassment within the U.S. military," the report states. "In September Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth directed a review and overhaul of those policies, calling the military’s existing standards 'overly broad' and saying they jeopardize U.S. troops’ combat readiness."

Trump Homeland Security official Tricia McLaughlin rejected the claims made without being specific.

"This is an absolute ludicrous lie and unequivocally false. The @washingtonpost should be embarrassed it published this fake crap," she wrote. Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr., shared her post.

Read the full article here.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

What the fuck‽

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

shit headline, its just the coast guard.

Though the Coast Guard is not part of the Defense Department, the service has been reworking its policies to align with the Trump administration’s changing tolerances for hazing and harassment within the U.S. military," the report states.

fucking clickbait trash

coast guard cant onboard hitler tattoos, fucking twats

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Did nazi that coming?🙁.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago
[–] dumbass@piefed.social 21 points 5 days ago

Of course Nazis don't think the Nazi symbol is a hate symbol.

That would be like me saying the weed leaf image is a hate symbol.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

"Divisive."

I mean, COME ON guys, lets just meet halfway. They wear swastikas and SS uniforms, and you don't complain anymore, it's called COMPROMISE.

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