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[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Following the double negative rule: Anti Anti Fascists leaves you with

Fascists

The USA is dropping the mask for all the world to see.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

The mask had been poorly held up for ages, people just chose to believe them 'cos Russia bad.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 34 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

AND STILL PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE EVERYTHING IS NORMAL! AT THIS POINT I WANT TO SEE MASS PANIC SO I KNOW I'M NOT CRAZY! AND I'M IN CANADA, I WANT MASS PANIC IN CANADA! I AT LEAST WANT THIS SHIT TAKEN SERIOUSLY ENOUGH THAT CANADIANS STOP FUCKING GOING TO THE STATES AS IF EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

AND STILL PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!

Nope, we'rs not. But I, like many people, am in a marginalized/bum-fuck town. So, my opinion doesn't matter until the polls open. We voted against this evil, and we will again. But, our government wants to embrace the evil.

We can see it wants to. We don't want it to. But, most of us don't matter to the government. We're not big-dollar donors, so our politicians will ignore us. They've minimalized most people so all that we can do is vote against it.

But, with where the Overton window is, we have one party running with regular evil while the other suggests a diet version of evil.

I AT LEAST WANT THIS SHIT TAKEN SERIOUSLY ENOUGH THAT CANADIANS STOP FUCKING GOING TO THE STATES

With how dried up tourism is, it would seem like they're already doing it. Yet, the government is still going down this path. So, it's not that big of an impact.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

The reason I want Canadians to stop going to the states isn't to help the states, it's to protect Canadians. But I would also like to help the states if I knew how

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

You say that, but the US is full of people still just going about their business. The country is operating fairly normally, all things considered, and the best you’ve got are sanctioned protests that are great for showing that people don’t love the situation but aren’t actually doing anything that couldn’t be responded to with an AI video of king Trump shit bombing everyone. Oh, and a Californian conservative who makes memes mocking Trump but is himself pretty shit.

Maybe for a nation of cowards this is action, but really it’s just sad. You’re taking it lying down, and half of you are even fighting to make sure that ya’ll get completely fucked.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I want America to revolt too, at the same time it's a bit much to ask considering people will die if it happens. Really, my anger and frustration is more directed at congress and the Supreme Court, the people who are supposed to be responsible for protecting America from this sort of thing.

[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

personally, I'm trans and I'm just trying to survive while I build an exit plan. damn right I'm laying down - I'm laying low.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Right?

Like, the best thing a member of a loathed and marginalized community can do is to have an escape plan. They're foaming at the mouth with rage and drooling at the opportunity for a hated group to put up an ounce of resistance so they can round them up for the camps. What kind of opposition can one transgender person in a one bedroom at night put up against an armed SWAT team?

It'll be someone else's job to resist with an organized force. The trick isn't surviving long enough to be rescued from Auschwitz. The trick is knowing when and how to get away before Auschwitz becomes a thing.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

but the US is full of people still just going about their business.

Because we aren't important enough for politicians to pay attention to. Our calls just go straight into an answering machine that gets ignored because we're not big-dollar donors like Musk. Musk probably has a direct line.

the best you’ve got are sanctioned protests that are great for showing that people don’t love the situation but aren’t actually doing anything that couldn’t be responded to with an AI video of king Trump shit bombing everyone.

Yeah. We are in poverty. We have had stagnant wages for like 40 years, but rampent inflation. This is the second gilded age like it was in the 20s and earlier. The rich have everything and direct lines to politicians, and the poor need 3 gig jobs and a regular job just to afford rent and food. In a work heap like this, we need foreknowledge to schedule our protests around. We can't afford the privilege of just taking off and protesting.

Maybe for a nation of cowards this is action, but really it’s just sad. You’re taking it lying down, and half of you are even fighting to make sure that ya’ll get completely fucked.

Again, you're conflating poverty and desperation in a backdrop of political corruption as aquiesence.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (4 children)

It would be nice if Canadians would also stop voting for politicians who lead Canada in the same direction as the USA. We need to turn left, not right.

[–] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

Be nice if someone could offer an actual choice.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

When you you hit rock bottom at America's level we'll have an ice cold imported beer ready for you and you can pull up a chair with us around the destructive bonfire immolating western civilization. We've got hot dogs and everything. I know you dont love us right now but in a weird twist Americans are still big fans of Canada.

I think I read that American approval of Canadians is 94% while simultaneously two thirds of Canadians not only dont trust the US but feel like they can never trust us again.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

We can’t stop voting for conservatives to stop the Conservatives(TM) from getting power. We’re dumb as hell for that.

[–] kevinrns@mstdn.social 6 points 8 hours ago

@floofloof @FreshParsnip

I wish Canadians would realise they are voting for the same policies, but all the newspapers are owned by a Republican American, and they dont know.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Honestly, I understand why my parents aren't even panicking, the country we lived in before coming to the US, also had random arbitary policy changes, so... this just feels normal to them, authoritarianism is normal to them.