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[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 234 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

There's a difference between a 15-year-old and a 5-year-old, you know?

She should not be able to walk down the street without constant reminder of making this statement about victims of sex trafficking. Absolute monster of a person.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 76 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

There's a difference between a 15-year-old and a 5-year-old, you know?

"There really is, one is annoying and one is hot". -Trump, probably

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Balaquina@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 weeks ago

More like "I've been dating her for 2 years, and her in another 8."

[–] degen@midwest.social 22 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

In his defense, teenagers are annoying as fuck.

...

I'm so sorry

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Megan Kelly has a 15 year old daughter, someone should call CPS and look into this poor kid if her mom thinks a grown man grooming her isnt a bad thing

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 174 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ryry1985@lemmy.world 75 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Yes, it's technically Hebephilia or Ephebophilia. That doesn't change the level of disdain.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Yes, it’s technically

Exactly the same if I started to call driving with a blood alcohol level between 0.8% and 25% "happy fun time driving" and pretended that means it's no longer the same as DUI...

People can make up all the terms they want, don't change the law tho.

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[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago

technically Hebephilia or Ephebophilia

You've been made mod of r/Libertarian

That doesn't change the level of disdain.

You've been removed as mod for r/Libertarian

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[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 137 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Holy shit they're actually doing the hebophile bit

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 57 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, but it's impossible to explain without sounding like a pedophile....

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

TIL hebophile and ephebophile, two words I didn’t want to know existed.

[–] skibidi@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

It is a useful distinction when considering possible rehabilitation. In general conversation it's just weird.

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[–] hannesh93@feddit.org 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

I mean it's kind of important to be more mindful about the choice of words in general as many people say pedophile but mean child predator.

There are many people born with that attraction to kids that never act on it or even actively seek help.

The whole "let's call everyone a pedophile" is doing more harm than good as it creates a huge stigma preventing people from looking for help.

That said: they are 100% not caring about that at all and just moving the goalpost...

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 18 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I do 100% agree that the concept of having hugely varied terms for pedophile, and say the term Minor attracted person, and get really sick of hearing people lash out on when the term MAP is used to say "You just want to protect pedophiles".

No I want people who have the urge to abuse children, to get treatement and never act on it and live peaceful happy lives where they never harm an innocent person, and to me that is far better of an outcome than a child being abused, but supposedly it gets made up for by the abuser getting tortured in prison.

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[–] henfredemars 129 points 3 weeks ago

Look at those goalposts go!

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 121 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

It is so predictable that conservatives would end up in "Pedophilia isn't that bad" once it became undeniable that Great Leader raped little girls.

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

funny that QAnon stuff circled around Dems having pedo-leanings and that was an OUTRAGE yet now it turns out to be OK, Humane even... wtf? Their morals exist only to stick it to anyone opposing them and they evaporate the second one of their own is caught doing exact thing

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Q-anon was never about children.

It was always about the fantasy headline: "Uneducated Everyman Uncovers Massive, World-Altering Secrets and Becomes Huge Hero by Decoding Publicly Published Materials for Unique Connections and Number Puzzles"

They are entirely damaged or dumb or religiously brainwashed people who are so deeply insecure about their lack of factual understanding of the world, that Q-anon became their "gateway" to some kind of real way to impact the world and be recognized for something good.

When a family member of mine fell down this pitcher-plant of mental illness and delusion, I went deep and hard into learning everything I could about the movement and conspiracy culture. Sadly my family member could not be pulled out and was at one point arrested for trying to... abduct girls. Seriously. He rationalized that he was trying to "save" them.

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[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 86 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

He's not a Pedophile unless he comes from the Pedo region of Epstein Island, otherwise he's just sparkling child molester.

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[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 73 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Im sorry, is this a conversation about the degree to which he is a pedophile?

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[–] JustKeepStretching@lemmy.world 69 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

This is one of the wildest most disgusting goal post moves I've ever heard

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 59 points 3 weeks ago

What are they even defending here. Even if they were 18 year old trafficked women it would be heinous.

It’s not like he was dating young girls or some shit, this is about sex crimes of which their age is only one of the awful awful factors.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 52 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

When you start making defenses that involve distinguishing between pedophilia and hebephilia you lost a long time ago.

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[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago

Getting out in front of the Epstein release I see.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Law enforcement baits out pedos to arrest using fake 16 year olds all day long. They can't spin this.

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Here it begins. Republicans will want to normalize pedophilia.

These people are sick. Saying this is public should earn a person an automatic 48 hour mental welfare hold.

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[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"This is this person's view, who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type. Like, he liked 15-year-old girls," she continued. "I'm just giving you facts that he wasn't into, like, 8-year-olds. But he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby."

"And that is what I believed and that is what I reliably was told for many years."

Kelly admitted that she began to change her opinion after Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Epstein had thousands of videos with child sexual abuse material.

"For the first time, I thought, oh, no, he was an actual pedophile," the conservative host recalled.

Megan "I was fine with him fucking teenagers" Kelly, everyone.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

But he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby."

How does this make any sense at all? How does one "pass as even younger" but still somehow "look legal to passersby"? Those are directly conflicting concepts.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

goddamn this fucking talking point is spreading. Just yesterday I was watching a video where some maga piece of shit was questioning a streamer about why he thinks its wrong that adults rape 13 year olds. Pretty soon we're going to have absolutely no choice except physical violence.

for ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1ovted6/we_breathe_the_same_air_as_these_people/

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

She has a 14 year old daughter

If you tell someone not to fuck kids and their response is "actually 15 year olds aren't kids" then that person is a pedo.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

hand gestures, trump voice It's called ephuba... epheeba... ephebiolphilia, folks, look it up. These girls. Women. Beautiful women, because you know, I'm only attracted to beautiful. I ran the miss USA pagent for years, you know that? I'm very proud of it. They call me up sometimes and say, "Mr. Trump, the evil, socialist communist left says beauty pagents are wrong and we have to give awards to ugly ladies with nose rings. Please come back". I have to tell them I'm just too busy saving America. But these women aren't kids. They're smart, intelligent ladies. The left hates beautiful women. They say "Donald is robbing the cradle he's a pedophile". That's fake news. Fake. News. Children don't have... well you know just look at these girls. They're very well-endowed, these ladies and I won't bow down to the evil communists. They're the pedophiles folks. Why doesn't anyone look into sleepy Joe sniffing all those girls' hair - it's creepy. But I'm attracted to beautiful. All the most beautiful things... you've seen my new bathroom, right? It's the greatest bathroom in the history of indoor plumbing... Kim told me that on the phone yesterday. He said he could see it through the window in pictures.

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[–] varjen@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

If you use the definition of hebephilia or ephebophilia as an argument about anything I'm going to think of you as a pedophile.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder if I'm even capable of being so dedicated to someone that I'd become such a gross fucking weirdo to defend them.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Fuuuuuuuuuck

"This is this person's view, who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type. Like, he liked 15-year-old girls," she continued. "I'm just giving you facts that he wasn't into, like, 8-year-olds. But he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby."

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

15 still isn't legal though.

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

barely legal

15

Someone explain to this bitch what "barely" means.

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The Narcissists Prayer

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad. <----- We are here
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

progress at last

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 weeks ago

Megan Kelly follows the "if you're old enough to bleed, you're old enough to breed" playbook.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

Her child should be removed from her custody.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Oh, they're going the "explaining the difference between a pedophile, a hebephile, and a ephebophile" route. Let's see if it works out for them.

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[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

He's a hebephile not a pedophile isn't much of a defence. So he goes after 11+yo children instead of children less than 11yo? Also most people don't know, or rightly care, about the age distinction - both are child abusers.

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

REPUBLICANS LOVE CHILD RAPE

simple as that.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

The "um it's ackchually ephebophilia" is spreading to the auth-right!

[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ohh okay so now we’re going with the “they’re mature to marry once they hit puberty” thing Somalia does. I feel real bad for Megyn Kelly’s 14 year old daughter.

What a POS

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Thank God the Right is out here protecting our kids from transpeople. /sarcasm

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's already been pointed out how wrong and gross this is.

But for the sake of discussion let's give her the biggest possible benefit of the doubt.

So then the president of the united states was ONLY a human sex slave trafficker. Super.

unfortunately I think her handlers know that simply planting a seed of doubt will work on many in their audience.

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