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[–] Moss@hexbear.net 76 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Ok FINE I'll learn how to install linux

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah this is the last push for me, when 10 dies I’m switching

[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

Go ahead and get out ahead of it. There’s still time for them to add a sp2 equivalent in 11 that creates a functional requirement for future operation and kills 10 for end users before the 2032 iot ltsc drop dead date.

[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

It’s easy. Ask and questions will be answered.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

TuxedoOS is as close as I've seen to just out of the box functionality. I've been very happy with it

[–] Huitzilopochtli@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Do it. The most important thing is to go in not necessarily expecting everything to be exactly like Windows. You can get a pretty similar experience if you use something like KDE as the desktop (Kubuntu, etc), but don't be mad if things work a little differently in places, it generally isn't worse (and is usually better) but it is different.

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Use a USB stick with Ventoy to install it. It's the easiest way in my opinion. There's plenty of tutorials on youtube.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 66 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This transformative shift hinges on users being willing to talk to their computer — as in, yes, actually uttering words out loud. The Copilot features will be activated by saying the phrase “Hey, Copilot!,” acting as a sort of “third input mechanism to use with your PC,” said Mehdi. (Historically, adding another input mechanism hasn’t done wonders for the company.)

The logic behind the voice controls sounds pretty questionable, but it’s supposedly backed by data showing that users spend billions of minutes talking in Microsoft Team meetings, according to Mehdi

Teams meetings, famously beloved by people. More proof this was just executives stuffing garbage in because it aligned with what they wanted, and justifying it later.

And with another feature, Copilot Vision, the AI will be able to see everything that happens on your screen so it can give context-based recommendations and tips. This is supposed to pair with Copilot Actions, which allow the AI assistant to perform tasks on your local machine, like editing folders or looking stuff up.

I'm surprised we haven't gotten to the point where users are required by the OS to take screenshots of their own machines periodically to send to ~~the NSA~~ Microsoft.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol talking to people is different than wanting to talk to your computer. Literally just making shit up at this point.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 49 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Talking to technology is always so fucking embarrassing. I can't even find myself doing it when totally alone my home or car.

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

Even people who would talk to their computers don't want this nonsense.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only voice command function I have ever actually used is setting a timer while my hands are full/wet cooking.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

I've reluctantly done it in my car for obvious reasons, but it's always a "I wish I just waited until a stopping point because this shit is humiliating" regret after I do it lol

[–] crosswind@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago

This is supposed to pair with Copilot Actions, which allow the AI assistant to perform tasks on your local machine, like editing folders or looking stuff up.

Good thing the training data doesn’t include thousands of people over a span of decades consistently repeating that the solution to every problem is to delete system32.

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

Mega clippy

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago

get on linux, ditch windows Fedware

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago
[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago

remember when people thought they rolled back the AI slop features? They were just waiting for the last version to go EOL :)

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Man the execs and management types are more out of touch than I thought. I would have expected them to at least do some focus group studies or whatever to at least give them a HINT as to how much people hate this AI shit, but I guess not.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They know how much people hate this shit already. They don't need the focus groups.

They're doing it because they want greater access to everyone's data, they want to see exactly what is on every single machine and be able to use all of that information for their models or whatever else. Data is what they're after and they will do shit nobody likes to get to it because they're pursuing the AI bag.

This will stop when the AI bubble pops. For now they're all in on this because it's the part of the market with the highest growth.

Companies do not pursue "make product better", they pursue "make more money for our shareholders". If increasing your stock value comes from going all-in on AI then they'll do that regardless of any consequences to the user. They will only divert from this path when the market diverts from AI.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They have done focus groups though, but they cook the answers to fit the AI support, e.g. if respondents write "I feel pressured to use AI to keep up", Microsoft spins it as "XX percent of workers use AI to get ahead". I've seen the drip feed propagAInda they push on my work PC and on the LinkedIn feed, they're going hell for leather. It's a paper thin justification over what Awoo rightly identifies as the real motive

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago

This transformative shift hinges on users being willing to talk to their computer — as in, yes, actually uttering words out loud. The Copilot features will be activated by saying the phrase “Hey, Copilot!,” acting as a sort of “third input mechanism to use with your PC,” said Mehdi. (Historically, adding another input mechanism hasn’t done wonders for the company.)

Swearing loudly at my computer in the middle of the open plan office I'm forced to work in because the AI is not doing what I fucking want.

Swearing even more loudly because the dude in the cubicle next to me said Hey Copilot and my computer picked that shit up.

[–] pastalicious@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I assume Apple has or is going to do the same so if we want to avoid AI we’ll have to go Linux and use alternatives to many of our favorite programs?

[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

They’re positioning themselves as the company that won’t require ai and will be most fastidious when using it. It’s why their ai integration is the farthest behind.

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

Soooo glad I ditched windows when I did

[–] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

I haven't booted my windows partition in months now. Probably just gonna wipe it and try out AntiX soon

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm so glad I completely ditched windows on all my computers.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

I'm still hanging on to the dual boot for the rare cases it comes in handy, but I really need to at least wipe that partition down to the bare minimum and rerun the Titus scripts.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago
[–] a_party_german@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Can anyone drop a few hints on how to keep Win 10 running for as long as possible?

As of now I think I'll shell out the bucks to have the enterprise version until it expires. 3 years or so from what I've heard?

Then in 2029 I'll switch to Linux. Or give up computers for good, fuck it.

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why not start Linux now so when you're forced to occasionally fall back as you develop your new workflow you can?

To answer your actual question, lack of support is, practically, the loss of updates that fix current problems and the shift of software support. A rotting house is still a shelter, just with more bugs.

Dont shell out for enterprise, check out KMS bypasses for enterprise install, theyre quite effective.

[–] ObamaSama@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Seconding this, please do NOT give microsoft any money. I have (cracked) W10 LTSC on my desktop which supposedly will be supported through 2027, that should buy you enough time to get more comfortable with Linux before switching completely

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don't pay Microsoft. If you have to use Windows, see https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol. You might want to try out Linux now though, it's not as scary as it sounds...

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

Don't pay Microsoft. This took me under 5 minutes to do and now I should allegedly still get Windows 10 security updates without needing to pay Microsoft or make a Microsoft account.

https://massgrave.dev/#how-to-activate-windows--office--extended-updates-esu

Linux is still the only viable long term path forward.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

You should start dual-booting or experimenting with VMs right now. It takes time to familiarize yourself and adapt your workflow to Linux. You have to be proactive about this. Don't wait until Windows 10 is dead for good before making the switch.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

You can just use the MAS scripts that people are linking you to to switch versions to and activate Enterprise and then after that activate ESU extended updates for 3 years (until Oct 2028) without spending a cent. They're less effort than doing it the official way too.

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I know better than to run unsupported software that's connected to the internet but I'm not really sure what the alternative is if I don't want to fool with linux and I don't want AI slop all over my OS. Besides which, windows 10 is currently saying it's not possible for me to update to 11.

[–] Huitzilopochtli@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There isn't an alternative if you exclude Linux/other FOSS OS. You don't get one when you use a proprietary, capitalist-controlled OS. You are inherently at the whims of whatever capital thinks will give investors a stiffy.

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I just have no interest in putting up with linux aggravations every day

[–] Huitzilopochtli@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Like what? Windows tends to be way more temperamental for most people's use cases.

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Haven’t ever found windows temperamental whereas on Linux every five minutes I’m having to look up why something in the terminal isn’t working.

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[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think these “aggravations” are in your imagination. Linux is a much more friendly OS to use than windows.

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah good ok

[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

Use the massgrave options another poster listed: https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol

That will allow you to switch your windows version to 10 iot ltsc and keep getting security updates for a while. If you switch to 21h2 iot ltsc you can stay on till 2032.

If you don’t wanna use linux but you want to get away from windows, Macs are cheaper and better than I’ve ever known them to be (relative to the value of a dollar). You’ll have to relearn some stuff but as someone who uses windows, macos and linux daily, it’s no harder than getting used to driving a car with the selector or shifter on the column as opposed to the floor.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Windows 10 has some sort of extended security thing for a bit (1 year you just need to sign into a microsoft account, 3 years you need to pay $30). Could also get LTSC but I'm no expert and I'm pretty sure that eventually even that won't work because other software will stop supporting Windows 10. More info here.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] miz@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

9.15%? unless you're not talking about Win 7

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Hmm, the numbers at the top don't correspond to the numbers on the graph. Don't know what's up with that.

I'm playing around with the parameters, and it looks even worse if you go by daily: https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#daily-20250918-20251018

Going by daily counts, there's actually more Windows 7 than Windows 10. It paints a picture of people hating Windows 11 and merely tolerating Windows 10 until it's EOL.

Digging the data even more, apparently the major boost in Windows 7 adoption comes from Asia: https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/asia#daily-20250918-20251018 But the intriguing part of it is if you try to search by individual Asian countries, most of them actually have insignificant Windows 7 adoption. The ones I could find that have not insignificant Windows 7 adoption are

Japan: https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/japan#daily-20250918-20251018

China: https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/china#daily-20250918-20251018

Hong Kong: https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/hong-kong#daily-20250918-20251018

Every other Asian country I tried (India, Pakistan, South Korea, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines) doesn't have significant Windows 7 adoption.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

the chart underneath shows october is up to 23%

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