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Do we have a tally somewhere of people killed by Teslas? I bet they racked up quite the high score up until now.
warning: there's a lot :/
I was gonna say that given that there's about 40k traffic deaths per year in the US, 700 deaths from Tesla seems low. But I looked up deaths over distance and Tesla is in fact in the lead with 5.6 deaths per billion miles. Kia and Buick coming up behind them with 5.5 and 4.8 respectively.
There's some disagreement about how Tesla's safety compares to other brands though, with one study giving it the highest fatal accident rate and others giving Tesla a good safety score.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/01/11/tesla-fatality-rates/
The number of fatal crashes and the safety score are not the same measures.
Insurance actuaries know the correct answer and Teslas are among the most expensive vehicles to insure, along with Dodge Ram pickups for obvious reasons.
Teslas turning off the autopilot feature less than a second before a crash, also helps keep that safety score high for the company. Its obviously driver error they couldn't avoid an accident in < 1 second. https://futurism.com/tesla-nhtsa-autopilot-report
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Should we really be counting the ones where someone else rear ends a tesla and dies? That's like saying the stairs killed someone who tripped over their own feet and fell down them.
If the car is disproportionately unsafe to crash into, yes.
That's a point. I feel like crashing into a cybertruck would be like just hitting a steel wall. No crumpling or anything.
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"You're crashing it wrong"
They didn't put it in crash mode before the collision. 100% the owners responsibility.
I played Cyberpunk 2077 and Hitman: World of Assassinations. In Cyberpunk 2077 one hack in the game is to literally make the car explode (you need to be a high level Netrunner for that) and other hacks involve making the car accelerate unstoppably or engage emergency brakes (rendering it immobile). I've seen Teslas not only burn like hell with the doors somehow having an autolock feature always engaging at that time. It just makes me wonder how long it will be before one such Tesla fire is found to be a deliberate action by another to commit murder?
I am surprised that it hasn't happened yet.
I think Musk has openly stated that he wants to be Arasaka
Remember Musk has access to all the car switches, pedals, steering, etc. if it happens often enough, it won't be odd when it's convenient for him that someone is burned alive in one of his mobile ovens.
A smart murderer who wants to get away with their crime will make it look like an accident. If their victim drives a Tesla and they know how to exploit a software glitch then that is a golden opportunity.
it hasn't happened because the cars can do it on their own just fine
Good morning 47, your target is WhatsHisAss, he drives a tesla and... oh, never mind. It set itself on fire, return to the safe house. You'll receive the money for all expenses since you didn't technically kill the guy...
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Who cares, FSD is so safe that doors opening in emergencies isn’t really necessary.
I’m joking of course, fuck.
Engineers stopped doing things simply because analysts determined that businesses can make more money by selling products with complicated and unnecessary garbage.
Of course, no sympathy for people who get screwed over for buying a car that costs more than my house.
Another person who saw wealth as something to be used for status, not to help those who have less. Rest in piss.
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The article is from march and the accident happened in November 2024.
Well thankfully only those buying cyber trucks are maga… so darwin’s law I guess
Or stupid tech bros/MBAs with a lot of money in their pockets and not much in their brains for common decency. At least this explains the rare cyber truck I've spotted here in Mexico.
They're fucking everywhere in Denver for some reason. I see at least one a day.
Most modern cars automatically lock doors when you reach certain speed (like 20km/h). I checked and automatically unlocking door on impact is a separate feature that may or may not be present in a car. So I think you won't be able to open most modern cars from the outside after a crash. The only difference is that you will open other cars from the inside without issues while in Tesla you have to use other door handle in front seats and it's really complicated to open them from the back seats. Is that right?
which is so stupid, who would break in your car at 20kmh?
I always thought the opposite would make much more sense, locking doors when you're below 10kmh and unlocking once driving
Firefighters always struggle more to open locked doors (duh) as much as I hate those, I don't think it's something specific to it.
I guess they don't lock/unlock constantly because that would be annoying in stop and go traffic.
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That's pretty normal in a car crash, no? The frame crumples and the doors often get stuck.
Except in these, there are no fucking handles. So, even if you tried. Nope. No power no open. And with the hardened glass that would normally allow a rescuer to just shatter a window... Nope.
Enjoy dying in a fire.
Yeah, facts would be useful here, rather than speculation
- maybe the frame was deformed so the door couldn’t open
- maybe the door was locked
- maybe the button or solenoid was broken or unpowered
Maybe the lack of mechanical latch is to blame but we don’t know that yet
It's called a fail safe the clue is in the name. The failure mode of a mechanism is it's safe mode.
In cars with mechanical locks they require power to be in the locked position in the unlocked position a solenoid loses power and a mechanical spring pulls it into the unlocked position. So when it fails and loses power the default is to unlock. Sure the mechanism could become damaged and bent out of shape but we're talking about a sliding bolt here, something that can be manipulated with a mechanical lever like a key.
Cars unlock the doors during a crash and this has been the standard for quite some time.
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