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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 9 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I played Cyberpunk 2077 and Hitman: World of Assassinations. In Cyberpunk 2077 one hack in the game is to literally make the car explode (you need to be a high level Netrunner for that) and other hacks involve making the car accelerate unstoppably or engage emergency brakes (rendering it immobile). I've seen Teslas not only burn like hell with the doors somehow having an autolock feature always engaging at that time. It just makes me wonder how long it will be before one such Tesla fire is found to be a deliberate action by another to commit murder?

I am surprised that it hasn't happened yet.

[–] hakkinen@lemmy.world -2 points 16 hours ago

go back to playing video games, kid

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

I think Musk has openly stated that he wants to be Arasaka

[–] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Remember Musk has access to all the car switches, pedals, steering, etc. if it happens often enough, it won't be odd when it's convenient for him that someone is burned alive in one of his mobile ovens.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 23 hours ago

A smart murderer who wants to get away with their crime will make it look like an accident. If their victim drives a Tesla and they know how to exploit a software glitch then that is a golden opportunity.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

one of his mobile ovens.

The real dream of all true Nazis.

[–] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I guess history does repeat itself....

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

it hasn't happened because the cars can do it on their own just fine

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[–] MrIamsosmrt@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

The article is from march and the accident happened in November 2024.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago

Known bug.

Out of scope. Won't be fixed.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"You're crashing it wrong"

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They didn't put it in crash mode before the collision. 100% the owners responsibility.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Do we have a tally somewhere of people killed by Teslas? I bet they racked up quite the high score up until now.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I was gonna say that given that there's about 40k traffic deaths per year in the US, 700 deaths from Tesla seems low. But I looked up deaths over distance and Tesla is in fact in the lead with 5.6 deaths per billion miles. Kia and Buick coming up behind them with 5.5 and 4.8 respectively.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There's some disagreement about how Tesla's safety compares to other brands though, with one study giving it the highest fatal accident rate and others giving Tesla a good safety score.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/01/11/tesla-fatality-rates/

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago

The number of fatal crashes and the safety score are not the same measures.

Insurance actuaries know the correct answer and Teslas are among the most expensive vehicles to insure, along with Dodge Ram pickups for obvious reasons.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Teslas turning off the autopilot feature less than a second before a crash, also helps keep that safety score high for the company. Its obviously driver error they couldn't avoid an accident in < 1 second. https://futurism.com/tesla-nhtsa-autopilot-report

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[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The disagreement doesn't really seem like a contradiction from my reading. The studies that give Tesla good marks are doing it based upon crash test results, which Teslas tend do pretty well on. The studies that give Tesla bad marks are doing based upon actual statistics from the field, and the numbers don't lie.

My assumption would be there's a few factors for this. It could be partly due to the sort of people who drive Teslas are more likely to crash them (this is probably why Buick is also so high on the list - too many senior drivers). Though my hunch is Tesla's self-driving implementation is a major part of it.

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[–] sadfitzy@ttrpg.network 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Engineers stopped doing things simply because analysts determined that businesses can make more money by selling products with complicated and unnecessary garbage.

Of course, no sympathy for people who get screwed over for buying a car that costs more than my house.

Another person who saw wealth as something to be used for status, not to help those who have less. Rest in piss.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a Tesla

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[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well thankfully only those buying cyber trucks are maga… so darwin’s law I guess

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or stupid tech bros/MBAs with a lot of money in their pockets and not much in their brains for common decency. At least this explains the rare cyber truck I've spotted here in Mexico.

They're fucking everywhere in Denver for some reason. I see at least one a day.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 30 points 2 days ago

Who cares, FSD is so safe that doors opening in emergencies isn’t really necessary.

I’m joking of course, fuck.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wcgw when there's no physical override?

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's pretty normal in a car crash, no? The frame crumples and the doors often get stuck.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

Except in these, there are no fucking handles. So, even if you tried. Nope. No power no open. And with the hardened glass that would normally allow a rescuer to just shatter a window... Nope.

Enjoy dying in a fire.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, facts would be useful here, rather than speculation

  • maybe the frame was deformed so the door couldn’t open
  • maybe the door was locked
  • maybe the button or solenoid was broken or unpowered

Maybe the lack of mechanical latch is to blame but we don’t know that yet

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

It's called a fail safe the clue is in the name. The failure mode of a mechanism is it's safe mode.

In cars with mechanical locks they require power to be in the locked position in the unlocked position a solenoid loses power and a mechanical spring pulls it into the unlocked position. So when it fails and loses power the default is to unlock. Sure the mechanism could become damaged and bent out of shape but we're talking about a sliding bolt here, something that can be manipulated with a mechanical lever like a key.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Cars unlock the doors during a crash and this has been the standard for quite some time.

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