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[–] osugi_sakae@midwest.social 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I realize it isn't technically foreign "investment", but international tourism to the USA is way down, which is having a huge impact on all the areas that rely on tourists.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/31/travel/international-tourist-decline-united-states

[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That article is sobering. Bolding is mine.

...analytics company Tourism Economics... updated outlook now estimates an 8.2% decline, led by about one quarter fewer Canadians visiting the US from January to July, compared to the same period in 2024.

The World Travel and Tourism Council, a global tourism advocacy organization, projected in May that the United States will lose $12.5 billion in international visitor spending in 2025, the only country out of 184 economies the council analyzed that will see a decline this year.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Who in their right mind would go to the US? The only reason dfat (Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trace) is still categorising the USA as "Exercise normal safety precautions" is because of geopolitics.

It's wild that we rank it above other destinations.

I would choose China over the US to travel to, any day of the week, and have multiple times.

China is massively authoritarian, no doubt, but they're not going through random travellers social media posts. Even if you've posted negative things about China (watch Polymatter's video on Chinese censorship, if you're curious)

I mean, unless you're actively and famously criticising the Chinese government. In which case, probably don't travel there and be accused of being a spy or something 😅

In any case, I feel much, much safer travelling to China than the US.

[–] SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago

as a european i can confirm almost everyone from all political spectrums says itms stupid to travel to the us atm

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

And yet with nearly every story of someone's loved ones being deported, their business going bankrupt or their entire means of affording necessities being on credit,

if they supported this orange bastard before, they still do.

Seems like every story of a working class Republican voter getting fucked by Trump ends with them saying "but I still support Trump and trust things will turn around"

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Insane we just allowed a Russian asset to take power and break anything he can touch.

If America still exists in 50 years people will look back at this time like we do with Nazi Germany today

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Look what Germany had to go through to purge the Nazis. And it didn't even take.

That's our future. Can't happen here? That's what the citizens of Berlin, Dresden, and a whole lot of other German cities said in 1939.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That's not our future. Germany had its Nazis forcefully stripped from power by foreign armies. There is no such force coming to liberate us.

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[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

50 years? Try now today. That's how I see you guys.
A nazi regime with mostly a population that is either weak, stupid, or maliciously complacent. Or fully complicit and collaborative.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 106 points 3 days ago (9 children)

We are just the next casino.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Is there any evidence that Qatar has formally pulled its pledge of $1+ trillion investment in the US? I couldn't find anything to support that.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I love to see this shit. I have longed for the downfall of this shithole after I saw how people acted after 9/11. The racism, the jingoism, all of it. Then the Iraq War, Patriot Act, Drone Strikes, NSA spying, Afghanistan, Libya, etc.

I truly madly deeply hate this country. And the further it falls into collapse and obscurity the better. We are the ones with 800 bases around the world. We are the ones invading sovereign nations on a whim. We wielded economic sanctions with such abandon that we necessitated the creation of a parallel international economic structure in BRICS. We're directly responsible for that. We are the ones who have been blowing up schools and hospitals not for just the last 2 years but for more than 20. We are currently and have been the bad guys for at least since the Korean War.

We should be a pariah state. We should have no financial or international relevance. Treat us the way you treat North Korea. This country deserves that and then some.

Shun and exclude us. Make deals amongst yourselves. Take care of your own house and enjoy the schadenfreude of watching ours collapse. I'm gonna enjoy it and I'm stuck having to live through it. I can't afford to leave.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

who let this nut case out of his padded room?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

The older I get, the more I realize.

Doomers are bad people.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 35 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I work in construction, and we've had no new bids come through in the past 2 weeks. That's never happened before, even during covid. I've noticed a lot less positive talk about Trump when I go into the office, though I doubt even this would be enough to make any of my coworkers reconsider their political views.

[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's just teams at this point. Trump is just the quarterback that they're bitching about this season, they're not switching teams over it.

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[–] n0respect@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They stopped caring about a strong economy and low prices. Now it is about America First, and has Always been about America First.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Under no measurement does it seem that America is first.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Under the "rich people making a lot of money and being above the law" they are definitely first.

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And by America first. They want to fall first and fastest.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Maybe Qatar should not give him that plane now

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Barely anyone cares. Retarded conservatives don't care when you point out their hypocrisy or dedication to a incompetent leader.

Democratic Establishment doesn't care they just want you to donate and vote to their campaign.

Campist Leftists don't care about the well being of the US economy.

Most normies probably don't even know about half of this.

Maybe 10% of the US population cares, and they're the ones posting stuff like this on social media to each other.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 days ago (22 children)

I do not want to give the impression that I support this guy, but is there any evidence at all of some gains?

Maybe I'm dumb, but I don't why they would willingly bankrupt this country unless theyre just betting against us and look to take full control. I'm not sure what the value of controlling a derelict former superpower country would be.

It's like vandalizing a fantastic house to drive the value down and then moving in. Great, you own a piece of shit that was once special but is no more.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 58 points 3 days ago (3 children)

There are three primary factors at play here.

  1. Trump’s greed and need to line his own pockets. He will wreck entire economic sectors to add another billion (in bribe money) to his accounts.

  2. Rich benefactors wanting more. They stay rich regardless of what the economy does, and have a ton of liquid. If it crashes, they can buy so much more of it up for themselves.

  3. Foreign actors looking to upset US hegemony. They don’t have to go to war, they don’t have to fight economic battles…just incentivize the right people to do the wrong things at home in the US, and we destroy ourselves. It’s cheap and easy for them.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's #2, first and foremost.

Tank everything so the rich can consolidate their power.

We know billionaires, they'll bitch and moan when their profits haven't increased as much as they increased last year. They wouldn't support Trump for his own gains or to appease a foreign agency for any amount of downturn. But to spend money on changing the rules and consolidating power, well, they haven't spent billions lobbying the government for fun.

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[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago

You already have a lot of responses, but so far none have included: Trump and some of his top staff are just not that smart. He destroys soft power projection not because he has some thought-out theory about its value, but because he can't follow the effect chain through far enough to understand the benefits. He really believed Ukraine and Russia were continuing to fight because they hadn't talked to a skilled negotiator like him: the underlying geopolitics is completely beyond his grasp. He seems to genuinely believe that the spending cuts to Medicaid in his Big Bill will not make millions lose their health insurance.

There are grifters all through the administration and its outside support with the corrupt motives described by other commenters, and Trump himself is greedy and selfish, but I believe he genuinely lacks the intelligence to understand what he is destroying along the way.

[–] Aquila@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
  1. Foreign powers are manipulating trump to weaken US for their own agendas
  2. its only about Trump being avaricious and gaining more power. Like going into nice neighbors house and stealing all the gold fixtures and copper wiring. Plus pilfering any funds connected to the house. There isnt any long term planning here. He still has his own place an can bail to anywhere in the world
  3. Using said power to manipulate/bully others into paying trump for favors engorging himself more

Take your pick

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[–] C1pher@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Art of the deal.

[–] DanVctr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

And yet the stock market keeps breaking all time highs

[–] Henson@feddit.dk 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Look on the bright side! Soy products must be cheap in usa now ?

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Fucking wish Australia had just said to the yes to the French submarine deal we already signed instead of buying a bunch of virgin boomers.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago (17 children)

hes doing what is told by PUTIN to him. make USA too weak, to help ukraine.

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