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Does hexbear not know about groyper culture? From what I’ve read, there are quite a few trans people who are firmly in the alt right. Apparently, incels have an obsession with fem boys and even nick fuentes has engaged in erotic behavior.
Part of me believes that this shit is way too nuanced for the MSM to report on accurately. Seems like it’s a wash and again, people are going to believe whatever confirms their beliefs
I honestly think that there's an above average chance he's a groyper and the MSM and FBI just don't understand these Nazi freaks can be chasers.
The sexual liberalism merged with fash really is something that MSM/liberals are unprepared for.
The (now deleted) reddit account that's being used to "confirm" that the roommate is trans belonged to some far-right truscum 4chan poster in Utah who liked cryptocurrency and Jordan Peterson, so unless somehow the cishet white boy cop brat who used groyper memes and targeted someone only groypers gave a shit about somehow simultaneously had better politics than his trans roommate/landlord but also not better enough politics to understand why throwing your life away to remove a literal nobody grifter is a bad move, the safe bet is they were both far-right 4chan addicted gamer chuds regardless of their relationship.
It's too nuanced and straight up bizarre even for people who are lgbtq unless they're very far into rabbit holes and obscure online subcultures. Reactionary and nazi femboys specifically hasn't been a rare thing for years, they seem (especially to cishets) like they'd overlap with trans women but that's not really the case. They're far closer to very misogynistic incels culturally than they are to tg and it's a complicated phenomenon but the thing with some people being into "men in uniforms" etc and other lowkey psychopaths because supposedly they're more macho and masculine is more well known and understood. It can be as stupid and shallow as that but disguised by tons of esoteric memery and terminally online slang. Maybe some pretense of ideology but it's just confused shit used as vibes and aesthetics. They still network and parrot far right crap though so functionally there's no real difference.
Transmedicalist binary trans people can also be comedically conservative and reactionary but we also don't talk about that openly.
i'm probably just not going to believe the media or a public figure on this person's gender identity unless it comes from an interview or public statement.
Yeah, why the hell are so many people here just assuming that the claim that this person is trans is true?
Literally it is misgendering to insist that someone is trans when they haven't come out and said so themselves, like lol people on here trying so hard they're circling back around into problematic.
We still don't know if this person is actually trans or not, do we?
old post. unsure if still accurate
no, and there's pretty good evidence they aren't. "Lancelotte", the alleged account of this roommate has a post joking about an anime filter turning them into a girl with the description saying something along the lines of "this shit doesn't know what it's looking at", which coincidentally is the post the stock image of this roommate comes from
it is complete and utter wholesale fabrication of evidence and facts to me.
What do you think about the reddit account u/lancelott3 and their participation in trans subreddits + mentioning they're from Utah, though?
this is news to me I found after making this comment, and maybe there is some link there. i still think this focus on the roommate instead of the guy who shot someone is a way to manufacture consent to make it legal to harm trans people
So far no not really just the media kind of beating around the bush that she is or isn't trans.
The media hasn't reported on this yet afaik, and hopefully they won't, but people found her reddit account and she's posted on r/4tran4 and r/TransDIY. it's very worrying
But again, we don't have any way to be sure that this is the same person
Hang on, I thought the "kirk's assassin's roommate was trans" stuff was all speculative based on one reddit post or something.
Why was it important to say that the roommate was a transgender who was transitioning from male to female in the first place? Why not just say that he had a roommate and they are cooperating with the FBI to solve the issue? Why specifically add a part that should be irrelevant?
Unless ofcourse they have an agenda and want to lead the discourse in a certain direction.
Insane that the gender identity of a roommate/romantic partner is more important than the actual motive. They are sooo desperate.
it's so wild how desperate they are to make it about anything other than cis white right wing men being garbage. even if his room mate/partner were trans, the fuck does that have to do with anything? they aren't the one who shot someone. that's like saying "ted bundy's mom was a woman so ALL FEMOIDS ARE TO BLAME"
but you see if he was dating a trans person that means he can't be a conservative because all conservatives hate trans people. got'em.
They’re already saying he was indoctrinated by woke leftist ideology because he went to college for 3 months
we spread the gommunism particles by simply existing, obviously 
it's not like the roommate was out publicly though. if I were in her position I would still want the press and courts to he/him me because i wasn't ready to socially transition at that stage, and obviously she wasn't either, because she had seemingly only told her friends
she literally did nothing wrong but her dickhead roommate/alleged partner did a shooting and now she's being outed on fox news
We should probably hold off on assigning pronouns to this person before we actually know for sure what they identify as.
So far all we have is very inconclusive.
I was thinking about this last night. Did Tyler do it because he thought he was helping his friend? If so this is a great reason why you don't do adventurism. You're not a superhero, you're not helping. Lana (I think that's the name she wanted to use) was already going through a lot with her family. They were all cultist Mormons trying to exercise the demons out of her. She was trying to get away and avoid that life. She found some respite online and with people who accepted her. Now she's likely going to end up being in heavy shit through no choice of her own. Because Tyler wanted to be a hero. She was always in danger, it being Utah, but now she is in more danger.
When people have feelings like they want to do something, they need to be able to talk about it. Tyler needed to go to someone who wasn't also a 20-year old with a martyr complex.
I really hope he did it for his own sake. It could be disastrous if he was on some Jodie Foster shit
she literally did nothing wrong
Allegedly snitching to the cops about someone allegedly shooting an unrepentant Nazi is collaborator behavior if accurate. It doesn’t justify the bigotry they’re being subjected to, but they did (allegedly) willingly put their neck in the jaws of a wild animal in the hope that it would eat their roommate.
wtf is he talking about:
“I can confirm that. I know that has been reported and that the FBI has confirmed that as well, that the roommate was a romantic partner, a male transitioning to female,” Cox said.
“I can say that he has been very cooperative,” Cox continued, possibly misgendering the roommate. “This partner has been incredibly cooperative, had no idea that this was happening and is working with investigators right now.”
On NBC, Cox added that the roommate “was shocked when they found out about it.”
But when Bash again brought up whether the two were romantically involved, the governor seemed to say that is not confirmed yet: “We’re trying to figure it out. I know everybody wants to know exactly why and point the finger, and I totally get that. I do, too.”
So it's confirmed and then it's not?
Purposefully muddying the waters to squeeze whatever transphobic panic he can from this event. Must be eating him up not to be able to pin the killing on a trans person so this is the next best thing for him.
It appears to me that the governor of Utah is getting information about this not from the FBI but mostly from the same right wing bullshit propaganda we're trying to dissect.
Crowder was subpoenaed because he leaked information given to him by ATF hours before anyone else. Feds have been feeding info to right wing """""""journalists"""""""". Then it gets onto twitter and 4chan as a rumor. Then it gets picked up as a rumor by mainstream sources.
Remember they also had Tyler in custody like 10-12 hours before his name leaked. The feds were trying to get ahead of this the whole time. They seem to be looping in Cox on a need-to-know basis which is what's been leaking to right wing media.
From Irish Times
They really really really really want to tell everyone what they want to hear, that it’s the trans person’s fault.
They’ll claim the trans person hypnotized the shooter into doing it if they must.
im sure its absolutely nothing and theyre just intentionally saying confusing stuff so conservatives can run with it and confidently lie
If this is true, then I'm guessing the shooter being brought up in a repressive conservative chud family, there was a lot of guilt, shame, and abuse that was instilled in them from an early age regarding human sexuality. When they became involved with a trans roommate it probably contributed to them deciding to throw their life away.