Interesting to note that the teens and young adults who overthrew the government elected their new prime minister on Discord, and the military acknowledged the election and put the winner in place.

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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

NSFW (text, no visuals) violence tag:

spoiler

Watched a video of a Nepalese man scoop the brains of a dead man into his hand and hold it in front of security forces, screaming at them to stop the violence. It was one of the most hideous and heartbreaking things you can see.

I do not see the vast cohort of Burgers doing that level of shit anytime soon.

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

Burgerreichers want nothing more than to have a liberal enough government that they can sleep politically, watch TV, eat burger

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 114 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I think the reason most of us haven't said much about this is that if you've been around for a while (especially since the Arab Spring) you'll remember tons of movements that looked very similar to this and didn't produce the kinds of populist results some alt media types always say they will. I genuinely hope for the best for them, but clearly the recent precedent, especially for these kinds of "horizontal" movements, is that they get co-opted by NGOs and turned into pro-western, liberal states, if not just collapsing right back into what they had before.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 68 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Yeah, disorganisation like this is the western colour revolutionist's best friend, their second best friend is western social media tools being used in all their organising.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago

Literally holding their vote on a western intelligence controlled platform (discord). Clown hours. CIA could have spun up tens of thousands of persona management bot profiles run by 20 people in army psyops to influence that in no time at all to say nothing of just straight up altering the vote totals.

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[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't read If We Burn to not learn from it.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My proudest moment in a while was sharing a pirated copy with some college kids that were in the right path but were definitely in need of a little examination on what kinds of movements would be effective. I even tried to even it out a bit by saying that decentralized authority and defence of a revolution is possible and forms of it exist with Rojava and the Zapatistas, but the idea of a completely non-hierarchical, nonviolent populist movement is bait.

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Rojava was a US-backed front for American occupation and oil theft, who are now allied with the ISIS-Al Qaeda Zionist government. Not a great example.

Also, both Rojava and this are incredibly violent. Rojava ethnically cleansed many arabs, and these protests were burning down residential buildings and killing the wife of the PM as well as clashing with security forces. Funny how pro-west movements never get called "violent" even when they are using snipers

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago

If i had a book to recommend to pretty much anyone calling themselves a leftist even if they arent is that one. Not cause its like the best theory stuff or whatever, but so people who haven't read theory may think twice before fucking it up for the rest of us. It's actually a really easy thing to explain to aplotical normies. Ive expressed this concern at work and have basically phrased it as "they overthrew the government before figuring out how to replace it and generally the last people you want in charge are the most prepared to fill that void." Don't rob a bank without a plan, dont use your tongue to stop a fan. It's common fucking sense really.

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude I remember back in the cth days that Rojava was like fucking ancom candy. Seemed like every other post had something to do with Rojava.

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's candy cause it's a left-aesthetic that isn't demonized by their media apparatuses (because it's pro-American). The radlibs wanna be left, but they have been legitimately brainwashed by American media and cannot break from it

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Oh I get it, I used to stan hard for Rojava back then, too, because it's what we did; I was just pointing out the difference in tone between the sub and lemmy.

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Many people came to understand the truth about Syria

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

And that's exactly the story for me. I came to realize that the "regime" narrative we were being fed in the news was a CIA talking point.

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah there were definitely people on the sub back in the day stating the truth, but they were mocked and drowned out by the sea of Bernard Brethren

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago

The ancom voice was by far the loudest voice on the sub. r/moretankiechapo and r/genzedong were where I really started to learn about theory, and eventually started actually reading someone other than Murry Bookchin or Noam Chomsky.

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh absolutely, I just thought "fucking of course they did" when I read a bunch of gen zs used discord to elect a prime minister. Cool as shit, honestly.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please don't use discord to coup a government

[–] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

7000 people voted in that "election" I bet 70% of them are bots

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 88 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

A government tried to ban social media and then a spontaneous uprising quickly installed a new prime minister using social media. I'm not going to speculate because I don't know enough about the situation (or Nepal in general tbh), but just those basic facts are concerning imo

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago

Ban American social media after it was being used to foment a western NGO backed coup*

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[–] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 70 points 1 week ago (3 children)

if I'm ever in a revolution, and I see a westerner hyping it up like an avengers or a fast and furious movie, I'm going to kill myself.

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Better hope this site gets taken down before any revolution you're in then.

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[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

well nepal clearly wasn't ready for revolution either because this entire thing hinges on the assent of the military.

which yeah, probably means the military is scared of the movement and doesn't think they could outright rule with opposition, but it totally rules out comparison to more militaristic nations. a thermonuclear weapon being used on DC is more likely than the JCS assenting to an informal election following a mob unseating the US government

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nepal Army might have been the only capable institution and the only one to suffer no damage. They were and are the most respected institution even now.

Executive, Legislative and Judiciary structure all were target to some extend. So military was forced to intervene and could have absolutely taken power (on pretense of temporary solution) but instead immediately approached the disorganized masses to ask for our representative. That was a major reason for the quick formation of a unified front since we had one day to present our representative. The use of discord was also for same reason. Everything was moving very fast and we used tools that were immediately available to us

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Tools that the organizers were trained to use at NED funded “anti-corruption” and “youth” seminars, attended by Hong Kong protesters and Free Tibet posters. Tools created by Jack Dorsey.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but just looking the cause of the revolt and totally ignoring the result is bad analysis.

I would have totally agreeded with that but the final outcome was something that benefited none of the meddling foreign power (China might again get an Win by doing nothing later on)

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You are falling for a color revolution. I won't stop saying it.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago

Its a good theory but unless the reality on the ground also align with that theory there is not much the left can do

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[–] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago

I think Lenin did say that brevity is the soul of revolution.

[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that just make it military rule with a publicly acceptable face?

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In a way, all rule is military rule.

Slightly more seriously, it would only be "military rule" if the military selected the prime minister, in my opinion.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

all political shit flows out of the barrel of the military

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Where do folks find reliable English language information about what has been happening in Nepal?

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

There are not really reliable sources available, even the Nepali media feels off

I only trust news from three sources for now

Nepal Army
Gen-Z movement official channel (fb, insta, discord)
RONB - fb page

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

mostly from 2 nepalis i follow in twitter pre-mass protests

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

@xarm@hexbear.net is our resident nepali afaik

[–] Tormato@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

What are good sources to read about this?

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