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[–] xarm@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

May it dethrone YouTube one day

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

Its a good theory but unless the reality on the ground also align with that theory there is not much the left can do

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

Yes it is actually very naive. What is the alternative do you have? Suddenly make all youth in Nepal class conscious by the power of friendship in a day?

I think you are confusing left and the movement. The interim government has been formed which has more support than the former government. You want the left to go against the more popular government and alienate more people in the coming election?

Until this government also mess things up badly, there is not much to be done except organizing and agitating the now more politically involved youth.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe after the crackdown on communist and socialist, but until then just worrying about it won't lead to anything.

If the government tries to take any such action before they move against the left, we will be in the streets. Plus you might be looking into wrong direction. Nepal is better bartering ram against India than China. Geography is fun here.

Also Nepal is not strong enough to be used as Ukraine at all. The more I think about the comparison, the more absurd it gets

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

The former government was formed by China friendly party (CPN-UML) and US/India friendly (Nepali Congress). Anything related to China has been sabotaged and crushed by Nepali Congress.

BRI has been in a limbo for a long long time with no way forward. Only now Nepal can finally break itself from US meddling and move closer to China

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think we and other communist will be fighting in the street if it was really a color revolution.

Also we are not embracing the current government. It is going in better direction than before but that is in no way enough. The same old question of reform and revolution and it is the 'reform' government. The lack of any leadership or organization of the movement was the reason for its success but also the factor that has severely limited its effectiveness.

I have watched that video and it looks really bad but that is how things work in third world. The ineffectiveness of government forces NGOs to step up which will be entirely depended on foreign funding. 'Hami Nepal' has been doing good social work and it might be the first time it has been involved in politics. If you want to feel a bit better, 'Hami Nepal' is not the leadership of this movement. Sudan Gurung acted as the representative since no one else seem to be doing so and things went in that direction

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah but just looking the cause of the revolt and totally ignoring the result is bad analysis.

I would have totally agreeded with that but the final outcome was something that benefited none of the meddling foreign power (China might again get an Win by doing nothing later on)

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They were trying to ban ~~US~~ social media at the wrong place and time. It was not going away, but it looked very very suspicious timing for general public.

They 'played themselves' because it removed center right government and now probably replaced by left (liberal) government.

The influence of US was increasing in Nepal. They are the last power than wants revolution in Nepal. Also Nepal is not Georgia, just looking at similarities in movement doesn't mean it is the same condition in both countries.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

It was funded by NGO that just happened to open the flood dam, accidentally removing pro western power

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

No any maneuvering by Juche party. Do not think they have enough credibility and authority to make any such moves.

Even they have been losing influence in their locality for few years now but now I really hope they will turn things around.

The opposition they faced from the previous federal government was pretty bad so at least one thing went well for them. But damn knew they were great but just started following them and they are based af.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago (11 children)

if it was a US backed color revolution then they just played themselves

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

not really maneuvering to get leadership but that might be the correct decision. The current interim government will be for 6-12 months so wasting energy to get inside is not really important. Juche party has put forward a press release basically condemning the old government and kind of also not supporting the new government for being unconstitutional.

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Current situation of Gen-z movement

Context for the first Gen-z protest

The protests on 8th September were organized by different groups with similar demands. They wanted investigation of politician's financial matters might be related to the nepo baby trend. That gave rise to 'Anti-corruption' part of the protest which was organized by a NGO (maybe a real NGO, do not feel that shady for now) called Hami Nepal.

The government’s unilateral ban on all social media with no transparent process, objective and reason resulted in the youth’s (+12000) according to Nepal police. If not for there may not have been a blip in the radar (protesting was turning into a national pastime since nothing changes).

Why is it called the Gen-Z movement?

There was another Instagram page that promoted the anti-corruption protest called gen.znepal and that is where the name of the movement came from. I think the name (of the page) was inspired by a similar (color) revolution in surrounding countries.

Why I think this is not a color revolution

  • Nothing was planned on what to do after the government collapses.
  • Former government was influenced more by US and India (Do not think china cares much, even now)
  • There is currently a targeted attempt from Indian media to smear the movement as Pro-monarchy. related
  • Media has been weird about the movement (could be lack of news sources)
  • Government has been repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot and this time it did not survive
  • Representative (Sushila Karki) has been elected democratically (for what can be achieved in a day)
  • Movement is very wary of foreign influence instead of depending on their ‘expert opinions’
  • There is no formal leadership yet but everyone agrees with the current person since he has shown himself to be capable. (some shady stuff was spread about him by an Indian fact-checker but even i do not think it has to do with current situation)

Centralization of the leadership

  • the organizing group had been overwhelmed by the size of the movement to have any sort of control over it.
  • The movement adopted the name 'Gen z' since that was the targeted demographic. A lot of smaller groups were formed during and immediately after the protest. It has now been centralized into one unified front (Gen-Z Nepal).
  • The need for a unified front was forced upon the divided group by the army since different groups were approaching the Nepal Army to present their demand, as the movement’s representative. The Army was confused on what do to and asked the them to sort between themselves first.
  • The movement moved into Discord due to the existing server of 'gen.znepal' instagram page and ‘Hamro Nepal’ (which is called ‘Youth Against Corruption' for CIA reasons) . Also it was apparently a convenient place to talk.

How was our representative chosen (PM of the interim government) + images

  • The day after the government collapse, the Army asked for our official representative to the government.
  • The discussion took place in the discord server, which has grown to 130,000 members then (currently +150,000) . There were 7-10k members in the live voice-chat where different potential candidates were put forward and considered. Potential candidates were approached for their view and those that accepted to take the role were polled.
  • Many constitutional experts, Lawyers and other professionals were called in to give their opinions. Nepali people from all over the world came together to share their perspective.
  • The video call were also shared in tiktok, youtube, facebook with tens of thousands of people tuning it. (Thats how i found out about discord server)
  • After the Gen-Z group selected their representative (Former Chief Justice Sushila Karki), the rest of the country first scolded them for using discord of all places but then took their view very seriously. There was further talk about the chosen representative Sushila Karki’s action, position, affiliation and gave their approval and criticism. In the end she was selected to be the formal representative.
  • The reason for her such mass approval was due to her background in law (so will not get tangled in legal loopholes) , independence from political parties (Maoist and NC tried to remove her due to her decision on some high profile corruption charges), and her experience as the (first female) Chief Justice of Nepal. The final push came from the favored candidate "Balen Shah" declined our invitation and expressed his support for Sushila Kark.

Gen-Z movement Demand

Immediate Demand

  • Interim government under Sushila Karki (completed)
  • Dissolution of current parliament (completed)
  • Conducting next election - within 6/12 month

Further plan

  • focus on structural change instead of just reform ( maybe dismantling parliamentary system but nothing concrete has been decided upon)
  • forming a grass-root structure in the entire country (forming up local groups) for continuing pressure on the government (lesson from Bangladesh), social work, reconstruction and fighting the old parties’ influence. For that a committee is being formed in all levels since just being online is not enough.

Tldr; Conducting the next election is the responsibility of the youth now (dissolving the parliament and forming interim government being the first step), and communist groups should be preparing for the election now.

Few questions to Hexbear

  1. What makes you feel suspicious about the movement?
  2. What are the weak point of the movement and its structure?
  3. General strategy going forward?
  4. Role of communist group in this situation?

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By some random tourist and also have a lot of fun doing it

 

related to this

There will probably be an interim government headed by a 'populist' leader who is currently the mayor of Kathmandu Municipality. At least thats what people are demanding. 'populist' in a sense like someone running in platform of change and improvement, not related to current establishment and is an independent candidate. and has done a lot of good so is very popular in the capital city.

The government's top brass has all been purged with no one left to take power. What should we focus on to prevent the same cycle of liberal governance -> move to right -> revolution once again?

There was no organization and leadership in the current protest, everything was spontaneous so felt like it would be an easy target for bad actors to take over the current momentum.

so any advice and recommendation of materials on moment after 'revolution' ? also the problem, limitation and enemies we face. Only the political leadership has been over-thrown but the ruling class still control the economic power. I guess only their investment in the political candidates are down the drain.

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