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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 278 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

The Minnesota political assassinations were less than 3 months ago.

These fuckers are just freaked out that the people they encourage their followers to shoot are maybe starting to shoot back.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 116 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

We didn't know who shot Kirk. The last few attempts on Republicans were also conducted by Republicans.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 62 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Maga was spreading the news that the shooter was a liberal within minutes. The vast majority will believe that they're under attack by liberals despite any news or facts to the contrary. Anything else will be viewed as another conspiracy.

Reality is not a place where Maga and Fox News live.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 20 points 3 weeks ago

The shooter could be a live long Republican with the parents, spouse, and kids all being Republicans. They could have the dog trained to attack minorities and they could be someone that was very publicly vocal about every and all Republican talking points.

But they'd find a single photo where they are wearing a blue shirt and say they've secretly been a Democrat all their life.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 weeks ago

I'm aware they'll lie about. Just saying we shouldn't boost that narrative. Not while no one knows who did this

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[–] dcpDarkMatter@kbin.earth 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 188 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Funny how when a liberal politician is shot, they've been "killed", but when a conservative influencer is shot, it's "assassination".

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

Lmao it's like "private healthcare" and "government-run healthcare"

You fucks don't get to mix both, either way public/private or say government-run/corporate-run healthcare

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't the word "assassinate" reserved for elected officials? Why tf is the media using this language for this jabroni who was a civilian?

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[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 96 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

And this is not a controversial person. This is not polarizing guy, a divisive person

He's like Socrates

Fox News hosts are simply unbearable.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmao did they serious say that? Wild.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup. Right in the article.

Absolutely insane.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

So they lie about everything then? Like I knew if was ‘entertainment’ and not news because they were lying but this is like… come on.

Edit: ‘he was a beautiful boy’? Why are they so weird? Who talks like this?

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

As someone raised by Republican parents that I'm now estranged from.....this is just how they talk. It's fucking weird.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Not polarizing, like Socrates...

Do they even know what they're saying? Socrates was so polarizing he was put to death because his opinions were too controversial at the time. (This isn't to imply the same for Kirk. He's just an asshole, and he won't be remembered by history.)

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 90 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"The enemy within", "Rats", "Demon-crats"

The Nazis dehumanized the Jews like this

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago

Jews, gypsys, homosexuals, disabled people and the opposition. Hitler actually went for the left and unions first.

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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 88 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 43 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Charlie Kirk: loses gun debate the hard way

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 68 points 3 weeks ago
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

"my daughter loved him. I mean, she’s 13 years old. This is a man who touched an entire generation of Americans"

PHRASING!

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Political violence is of course bad... but as soon as you call for it, especially indirectly, you deserve whatever comes to you. Stochastic terrorism is still terrorism, and there's not a lot more American than the fact we don't negotiate with terrorists.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Except these assholes have been calling for it explicitly for years.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 50 points 3 weeks ago

My brother in christ, your side had already deployed the military on American soil and kidnapped our neighbors, this ain't a start of a war, it's engaging with an active invasion.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Patiently waiting for the shooter to be a hard right conspiracy nut so I can play this clip back

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 20 points 3 weeks ago

As funny as it is, nothing matters to these people. They find out that he rented twilight 12 years ago and determine that he must be one of those homosexuals, who are now at war with them.

[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 75 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

What?

Has it even been a week since Trump himself declared war on Chicago?

Don't act like any escalation is because one piece of shit got got. Whatever comes next was co.ing anyways.

If what happened today has any effect on Trump's timeline, it likely slows it down.

Every piece of shit just got reminded that this is still America. 40% of people have easy access to a gun, and most Americans can buy one in under an hour.

They're going to calm down, at least in person. Violence is about the only thing that keeps fascist out of daylight, especially when they already control the government

[–] Xulai@mander.xyz 30 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

This was done by someone with skills and discipline.

It was probably deliberate, and ordered by the administration, and will be used for Trump to try to take guns away from citizens so he can start sending goons to our homes

They started this earlier in the week with the trans gun ban speculation. And immediately Trump knew and posted when he was shot. And Fox News already has a script ready.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A hell of an Epstein distraction.

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[–] maplebar@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago

You thought a "culture war" would never turn into a "war war"?

Aren't you the fucking clowns that just declared war on Chicago and Portland like a week ago?

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He’s like Socrates. He asks questions, and he does it with a smile. And there’s nothing controversial about saying, ‘socialism is worse than capitalism. Men and women are different. Let’s put America first,’ because that’s all he was about, putting America first.

Guy isn't even cold and they're moving on to more culture war bullshit.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Yes. A war YOU started.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The party that was cheering on civil war for the last year is now trying to play the victims

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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I love that these two bit conmen are all like "they're at war with us?!" When they've been trying to incite war with "us" for the past decade or so. It's hilarious how it's now all our fault. Also, Jesse Watters is a cunt and a deplorable human being. Let me know when someone of worth has something to say.

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago

The party of “fuck your feelings” has feelings now? I’m clutching my pearls right now!

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

Good grief, these people are such gaslighting assholes.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm TERRIFIED! As a Republican i NEVER thought I would be treated like a FIrst Grade child or Democrat politician!

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[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Someone declared war, but it wasn't the left.

[–] YoiksAndAway@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I wonder what he had to say after two Democratic state senators in Minnesota were murdered. And after Paul Pelosi was nearly murdered, for that matter.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

Hey Jesse, did u know liburals can study really gud? Mostly becaus3 we believe in education.

A common long-range civilian setup: .338 Lapua Magnum, 250–300 gr (≈16–19 g) very-low-drag bullet, muzzle velocity ~850–900 m/s. Target distance: 2000 yd ≈ 1829 m.

What happens to the bullet

1) Drag (air resistance) does most of the work.

Drag scales roughly with the square of speed. The bullet leaves supersonic, slows hard at first, then even more as it nears the transonic region (~Mach 1.2→0.8). A .338 LM VLD bullet often goes subsonic before 2000 yd, which adds small, messy instabilities (buffet, increased yaw). Result: time of flight stretches to on the order of 3–4 s.

2) Gravity never clocks out.

While the bullet is covering the 1.8 km, gravity pulls it down continuously. With realistic drag, you’re looking at dozens of meters of drop by 2000 yd—think ~40–55 m (rough scale), not centimeters. That’s why long-range optics dial many tens of mrad/MOA.

3) Wind is a tyrant.

Sideways air matters because the bullet lives in the airstream, not on a chalkboard. For a steady 10 mph (≈4.5 m/s) full-value crosswind, lateral drift at 2000 yd is meters, not inches—roughly 5–15 m depending on exact bullet, density altitude, and how much of the flight is subsonic. A 1 mph error can easily shove you >0.5 m off at this range.

4) Spin drift (gyroscopic drift).

Right-hand twist barrels impart a subtle rightward drift as the bullet’s spinning axis processes in a gravity field. At 2000 yd this is commonly ~1–2 m to the right (order-of-magnitude).

5) Coriolis (Earth is rotating under you).

Over a ~3–4 s flight, the Coriolis deflection is modest but real—typically tens of centimeters up to ~0.5–1 m, depending on latitude and the firing azimuth (most noticeable shooting north/south; almost none due east/west at the equator).

6) Energy on target.

Muzzle energy for .338 LM is ~6–7 kJ. After 2000 yd the bullet’s speed may be ~250–350 m/s, giving ~500–1000 J remaining—still serious, but a small fraction of launch energy.

A compact worked picture (illustrative, not a firing table)

  • Cartridge/bullet: .338 LM, 250 gr (~16.2 g) VLD
  • Muzzle velocity: ~900 m/s
  • Time of flight to 2000 yd: ~3–4 s
  • Gravitational drop: on the order of 40–55 m by impact (drag-inclusive)
  • 10 mph crosswind drift: roughly 5–15 m
  • Spin drift (RH twist): ~1–2 m right
  • Coriolis: ~0.2–0.8 m scale, sign depends on azimuth/latitude
  • Impact speed/energy: ~250–350 m/s, ~0.5–1 kJ

Why 2000 yards is “edge-of-envelope” for typical civilian rigs

  • Transonic crossing: Many .338 LM loads go subsonic between ~1500–1800 yd. Crossing transonic erodes ballistic coefficient and can perturb stability.
  • Error growth: Tiny input errors—muzzle velocity spread, wind gradient with height, density altitude shifts—balloon into meters of miss distance.
  • Angular resolution: At 1829 m, 1 milliradian ≈ 1.83 m (1 MOA ≈ 0.53 m). Your scope’s clicks, your hold estimation, and your bullet dispersion have to play nice at that granularity.

The physics takeaway

A 2000-yard shot is a four-second argument between inertia and atmosphere, refereed by gravity and heckled by Earth’s rotation. The bullet’s story is written by drag (v²), gravity (g), and a stack of second-order effects (wind fields, spin drift, Coriolis, aerodynamic jump), all amplified by long time-of-flight. It’s not magic; it’s compounded small physics.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Just saying, with this type of unhinged rhetoric, liberals and minorities should exercise their 2A rights.

It's got the potential to get bad because guys don't need facts before they shoot especially with a influential guy here, and he is, actively encouraging his followers to avenge Kirk and blaming the left with no proof.

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