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The kind that is cleaned properly.

this is less a problem with the bottle and more a problem with how you're not cleaning them well enough.

get a non-plastic bottle. plastic is notorious for harboring bacteria, and mold, because they are prone to microscope crevices from forming. probably a metal one. you might want to use soap and hot water for metal containers.

Tape some bubblewrap around a mason jar taps forhead

Just learn how to clean them and clean them. There is no magic bottle that doesn't.

Invest in a bottle brush and clean your container well.

Anything that's wet all the time is going to grow mold or algae or whatever.

Whether you rinse or scrub, if you just shake off the drips or even towel it off before you fill it up again it's going to get gross.

It needs to spend a significant amount of time completely dry.

The solution is to have 2 bottles and switch them every few days.

The only thing that ever comes in contact with my water bottle is water. It is always spotless.

You are contaminating it with your mouth when you drink from it. If you put sugary stuff in there, you are basically carrying a petri around with you and asking why its growing stuff.

Yeti wide mouth because it's easy to clean. I just flush it with hot tap water and a drop of Dawn, let it sit for a few minutes, then hold my hand over the mouth and shake. Rinse thoroughly, then dry right side up so condensation doesn't build up inside. The part to really pay attention to is the mouthpiece, but that is quickly cleaned with some soapy water and a rag.

Also, DON'T use your dishes rag/sponge on your water bottles, as it always has residual dish gunk (no matter how many times you rinse it) that will actually make your water bottle dirtier. Keep a separate rag for washing drinking bottles and wring it properly when you're done.

The solution to your problem is not to buy one specific bottle. The solution is to have two separate water bottles, so that you can swap and clean them on your own time.

32oz wide mouth Nalgene for me. I have 3 and cycle them every 2 days. Dishwasher when I run it and bottle brush once a week. Never a hint of anything.

Gaskets are consumables, whatever bottle you get, make sure you can source additional gaskets.

I would just not care about the biofilm and wash it regularly. If you fill the bottle from a clean source and it doesnt smell or taste strange, the water should be fine for consumption.

You know your fresh water pipes also have biofilms in them? If it isnt contaminated, the microorganisms there are harmless. So if you get clean water from the pipes and your mouth has a healthy microbiome, where should potentially harmful microorganisms come from?

Only in rare amounts from the environment when you open the bottle. For that to create a buildup will take time. If you properly wash your bottle like once a week you should be fine.

No bottle will stay clean if you dont wash it from time to time.

Put them in the dishwasher after every use. If it is not dishwasher safe, throw it away and get one that is.

They actually had a special on drinking bottles recently and I was thinking about buying one. Then they had a report on TV about such non-dishwasher-safe bottles, and that you simply don't get them clean with washing them by hand. They had some nice pics of such bottles building up things in nooks and crevices. Gave up on that special offer, as they were not dishwasher safe.

I bought a metal tumbler for this exact reason, easier to clean and longer lasting.

Mold = dust/residues + dampness. Clean your bottles, and keep them dry when out of use - you can keep water filled bottles pretty long in the fridge.

My 4 year old bottles stay filled in the fridge; when a bottle travels with me, coming home i wash them with my bottle brush and a small amount of dish soap and either fill them right back up and put them in the fridge again, or i keep the cap off and let them dry thoroughly putting them upside down so droplets can get out. Anything else is just an invitation for mold.

Guaranteed to keep your water cool.

I had a Zojiirushi in the past too. I agree, it takes too much effort to clean. I now use a wide mouth bottle that just has a screw top lid, no straw or drinking apparatus besides the large open mouth. No gaskets or anything else. It's only two surfaces to clean and requires no disassembly, other than taking the lid off. It's much easier to keep clean.

The brand doesn't matter. Just get a wide mouthed metal bottle of whatever cheap brand is around. None of them have engineered a new alloy that makes their bottles better or anything. Just make sure it's double-hulled if insulation is important, which most are.

you can clean them daily, they get black spots

Daily?! I clean mine weekly and I put coffee and milk in them. I drink my coffee by lunch and rinse them out 3x. I turn them upside down and air dry the 2nd half of the day. They're dried by end of day. Do that 5x a week. Wash on the weekends.

I've had good luck with kleen kanteen. Stainless steel with a steel screw in top. No gaskets.

I know what you mean about the moldy gaskets, I've had that problem with insulated coffee mugs.

flip top stainless growler, get a bunch of extra gaskets and rotate them. I put them in the dishwasher in the cutlery tray that has a lid to keep things from flying out, then boil them submerged under a stainless trivet to get any smells out.

the bottles I just use soap and a brush and if it smells like anything after that then PBW or oxy powder.

bottles with straws, slide seals, the other type of flip lid, hollow lids, etc will inevitably have unwashable areas that will get nasty.

runner up is this. they fit the same opening

it looks like they dont sell the growler flip any more but I bought several for my klean kanteen knockoff (unintentional kkk) standard size bottles too.

You're probably going to have the easiest time just cleaning them periodically.

If you want to have something that's intrinsically antifungal, instead of stainless steel, you could get a copper-alloy water bottle, like bronze or brass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimicrobial_copper-alloy_touch_surfaces

Antimicrobial copper-alloy touch surfaces can prevent frequently touched surfaces from serving as reservoirs for the spread of pathogenic microbes. This is especially true in healthcare facilities, where harmful viruses, bacteria, and fungi colonize and persist on doorknobs, push plates, handrails, tray tables, tap (faucet) handles, IV poles, HVAC systems, and other equipment.[1] These microbes can sometimes survive on surfaces for more than 30 days.

I wouldn't bet on it stopping growth on the gasket, though.

It looks like this claims to be copper (which if correct, I would think would be really prone to denting):

https://www.amazon.com/Adonai-Hardware-Hammered-Copper-Bottle/dp/B09MZ9VYJS

This vacuum flask says that it has a copper internal lining:

https://www.amazon.com/OUTSIDER-Stainless-Vacuum-Insulated-Bottle-Thermos/dp/B0BX7C1MDK

I have about 10 protein/gym shakers, that I use for shakes (obviously) but also just water. I have so many because they will sometimes come free when i order supplements - but they can be bought for a few dollars. I rotate them daily and just run them through the dish washer. Because they're wide and the lid comes off they are super easy to wash and dry.

I'll normally get a couple years out of them before they need replacing.

Nalgene and a bottle brush.

FWIW water grows less mould than water with sugar/flavor/etc.

Assuming USA, kleen kanteen, with a simple screw-off cap. Or yeti with those slider caps. Personally as a desk worker my water jug has no cap.

For cleaning, soaking for 20 min or so with hot water and something like unscented oxyclean, powder brewery wash, or a bit of dishwasher powder works very well at removing organic matter - for stainless and glass.

I use a stainless steel insulated bottle and I clean it with Polydent tablets, like for cleaning dentures. It works incredibly well.

stainless steel or glass. Those are your options for growth-free stuff. Even then, water only, or you're only creating a science experiment. Even then, wash frequently or you're only creating a science experiment.

The Contigo Cortland chill. I love this bottle so much if I lose it I buy another. I've been using this bottle for at least 6 years now.

Because it's a button spout it's very good for air sipping (water falling). Since I don't put my mouth on it, there is less chance of bacteria developing in the bottle and lid.

The Lid folds open on the inside which makes it easy to clean by hand.

I see they have new filtered variants, I haven't tried those yet.

I’ve been using the same few Hydrocell bottles for years. (They’re a stainless steel vacuum insulated bottle, basically a significantly less expensive Hydroflask knockoff.) I use them mostly for water, but occasionally other drinks like unsweetened tea, sugar free electrolyte drinks, etc.

I have never had a mold problem with these. I just disassemble them and run in the dishwasher every few days. (Before I had a dishwasher, I would wash them with hot water and dish soap, lightly scrub, and air dry.)

This really sounds like a cleaning problem to me. I’d recommend washing water bottles every 3-4 days, and if you use a bottle for anything other than water (especially anything with sugar) wash it that same day.

Mold doesn’t magically grow out of nowhere, it needs “food”, a nutritious medium. This could be sugar in a sugary drink, protein in a protein drink, or just contamination from having been in contact with a mouth too many times without proper cleaning.

Also, the quality of the water you’re putting into the bottle makes a difference too. If you’re filling up at the water cooler at the gym or at work, for example, it could be that the water cooler isn’t being cleaned properly and has mold growing within. That would certainly accelerate things in your bottle.

I wish I knew. Scouring a metal bottle by using a bottle brush with a little water and rock salt or baking soda can help de-scum the films that lead to mold.

Historically, these are the consensus fave in reusable bottles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calabash

Well I use a nalgene and a Kleen Kanteen. Both have that standard open mouth design. You're gonna need to clean the caps and O-rings but they're pretty good

Reading other replies, I find it interesting. I use a manna water bottle (big 128fl oz one) and typically drink about half a day. I normally can let it be for quite awhile (a few weeks I’d say) before feeling like I should clean it.