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Trump is eager to breach Mexico’s sovereignty to attack cartels, officials say — just don’t call it an invasion

A new directive signed last week by President Donald Trump gives the Pentagon authorization to use military force against Latin American drug cartels designated as terrorist organizations, according to administration sources.

A U.S. official familiar with the matter confirmed to Rolling Stone certain details regarding the Trump-signed directive, which was first reported by The New York Times. Other knowledgeable sources, working in or close to this iteration of the Trump White House, say that unless Mexico gives Trump what he wants, this administration is serious about attacking its neighbor to the south. And according to administration officials and others familiar with the Trump administration preparations, it’s not a bluff: This American president wants to violently breach Mexico’s sovereignty — if and when he feels like it. He, after all, effectively campaigned on doing so during his 2024 bid.

Just don’t call any of this a plan for an invasion, U.S. government officials implore.

Speaking about the new directive, a senior administration official says, “It’s not a negotiating tactic. It’s not Art of the Deal. The president has been clear that a strike … is coming unless we see some big, major changes.”

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[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

I’ll believe it when I see it. Everything right now is just a giant distraction from The You Know What PDF Files

[–] littlebigendian@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My friends in Canada, I hope you know he is coming to take your land as well. This is a runaway train & other counties will have to intervene

[–] Azal@pawb.social 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Speaking as someone who's equidistant between them, I'm hoping Canada and Mexico are working hard on talks behind the US's back on a mutual defense pact, preferably with the EU. The US is WAY too big to allow to take countries while telling others "It'll be fine, we won't bother you." like Germany did in its last invasion tour.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If there is a mutual defense pact, I hope that there is also an agreement to help the good guys in a 2nd American Civil War. Having trade, transport, and military cooperation would go a long way towards making this shitshow end sooner.

I will also make a prediction: Iran and other Middle East nations that have been attacked by America would have agreements with Mexico and Canada to be granted passage and support for operating within the US. It is pretty much Behind the Bastard's universal theory of "fuck that guy.".

[–] Azal@pawb.social 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If there is a mutual defense pact, I hope that there is also an agreement to help the good guys in a 2nd American Civil War

I mean... that ABSOLUTELY would have to happen. Going up against the US in its back yard in a traditional war would be absolutely blitheringly stupid. The US, one thing everyone can agree on has put so much money in its military that China is the only superpower that really has a chance to throw its whole military might against the whole of the US military might and not be crushed. The US has trouble with wars because we don't commit wholly to a war, and keep our military spread all over the world. If the mutual defense pact comes up and you have two neighboring countries at the north and south at war, the US will commit fully.

But the US is, for all its pride that's how independence was gained, terrible at asymmetric warfare. It's why Afghanistan would be considered a failure, is traditional warfare tactics was not what it took to take out the leadership there, and honestly we made things worse. So basically, if there is a mutual defense pact between those two and it doesn't include help get a civil war going and assist it any way possible, I would think then the pact would be useless.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I think its almost universally accepted that the US would crush Canada in a traditional land war, but the long term occupation would destroy the US. Its one thing to invade a distant land across the world with people who look and speaking nothing like you. Its a different story to do it in your own backyard with people who look, talk and think like you and are thorough embedded in your society.

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago

I thought he said he was the peace president. You know, based on literally nothing

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 5 points 6 days ago

Wild how true the old trope ‘every accusation is a confession’ holds here, the projection is real.

Trump was arguing in court that we are already being ‘invaded’ by Mexican immigrants, trying to use this as reasoning to justify use of military at the border, among other things like…. Oh I dunno, disregarding constitutional rights of habeus corpus.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

He wants a Nobel Peace Prize so badly you can smell the desperation, but Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller wants to murder millions of people so he doesn't feel like a weak little Jew with a tiny dick, so he's whispering in HitlerPig's ear like Wormtongue, and encouraging war.

[–] Jas@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

Man this is wild… if the U.S. really goes through with this, it’s gonna strain things with Mexico in a way we haven’t seen before. Feels like they’re walking a thin line and calling it everything except an invasion doesn’t change what it is. Definitely something to keep an eye on

[–] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 130 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Imagine a timeline where the USA, Mexico, Canada, Europe, and the rest of the world's democracies that at least try to be diverse, equitable, and inclusionary... were all working together to minimize friction among their liberalized economies and cultures.

We'd be a spacefaring species within a generation or two.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 97 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its too bad we spent the last 50 or so years chasing the dragon of profit and letting it divide us. Profit. Some shit we made the fuck up.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 22 points 1 week ago

Even the original space race was about ICBMs and intelligence gathering satellites.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As per Star Trek lore, we’ve got to nuke ourselves to near extinction first :/

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[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'm going to paste here a comment I made from 10 months ago

Ya know I realise this is complete conspiracy theory.

However, I'm still willing to give a 2-5% chance that if Trump gets back into power, within the last 12-18 months of his presidency he'll declare a special operation into North Mexico to 'secure the border', 'stop the illegal immigrants' and 'remove the drug cartels'.

Then he'll claim it's too dangerous to hold the election, or not appropriate, or whatever excuse because of the special operation. And then he'll postpone the election with the approval of the SC as a presidential duty and therefore not illegal.

And I know this is insane but every time I ask myself "would trump attempt something like this?" The answer is always "yes"

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[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Who's going to stop the American nazis?

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Cartels been killing judges and politicians for decades. They don't do it in the USA because they don't want that type of heat on them. If the US invades, I'm sure they'll start.

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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Given that Canada and Greenland are also in the sight of these nazis we might need a larger coalition .

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

A) No one.
B) Canada and a subsequent western coalition.
C) Latin America and a surprise coalition.
D) Some mix of the above.

The thing is, Taiwan is probably going to get invaded if Trump invades Mexico.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I've been hearing about the impending Chinese invasion of Taiwan since Dick Cheney started chewing on that bone in the 1990s.

We've dropped bombs across half of North Africa since we started mainlining "Taiwan will be invaded". We've manufactured five major famines - Haiti, Sudan/Ethiopia, Libya, Afghanistan, and Gaza - since then. We've toggled the "bankrupt Cuba through sanctions while we run a torture camp from the naval base on their island" switch at least twice since then. We've backed regime changes in Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, Honduras, El Salvador, plus a couple failed ones in Venezuela and Chile since then. We've gerrymandered our own Congress three separate times since then.

I gotta say... maybe it takes one to know one. But it's not China the Taiwanese seem like they should be worried about. Just ask the folks in South Korea, who are cleaning up after their third near-reversion-to-dictatorship in twenty years, under reactionary presidents we supported. Or Indonesia and the Philippines, which seem unable to get out from beneath our proxies' jack boots.

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[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago

Well it sure won't be the European Nazis.

[–] deathbysnusnu@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Stole this gem from another thread.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 40 points 1 week ago

Trump is eager to breach Mexico's sovereignty to attack cartels, officials say - just don't call it an invasion

It's a Special Military Operation. When the Mustard Mussolini is done fondling Putin's balls he'll have him explain how he pulled it off.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anything to avoid releasing the Tacostein files.

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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago

Excuse me, but I couldn’t help but notice we haven’t released the Epstein files

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago

Wikipedia defines an invasion as:

An invasion is a military offensive of combatants of one geopolitical entity, usually in large numbers, entering territory controlled by another similar entity, often involving acts of aggression.[1]

Attacking Mexico would be an invasion.

Just don’t call any of this a plan for an invasion, U.S. government officials implore.

Go fuck yourself. It's an invasion.

Team Trump Is Actually Drawing Up ~~Attack~~ Invasion Plans for Mexico

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wasn’t this the Plot of one of the Tom Clancy movies where Harrison Ford played Jack Ryan?

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[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good thing I don't live in Texas anymore. They're gonna get the shit terrorized out of them in response. This asymmetric stuff gets nasty and the US won't be able to identify good hispanic from bad hispanic based on color alone.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 2 points 6 days ago

I mean... I doubt Texas will be where it ends...

[–] habitualTartare@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

What makes you think they'll even try to?

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (9 children)

ok as a naive Canadian can I just ask...What's the point of saying "Epstein list" over and over?

I know he's on it, you know he's on it, everyone knows he's on it so if/when it does come to light that he is INFACT on it and it's proven in black and white...then what? he gets removed from office? someone starts an impeachment process that goes no where? cause all the other motions for impeachment have worked out well. Or he and his administration and the rest of the GOP simply ignore it and continue on their fascist path.

I just don't understand it. Based on what I've seen and read nothing would happen.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 7 points 6 days ago

A lot of people are talking on the defaults, but why I'm on the train about the Epstein list is it's the only thing that I've actually seen rattle the MAGAt cult, and that's having to interact with the idiots at work and the like.

Trump ran on releasing it, then when he got in Pam Bondi said it was on her desk ready to be released, then suddenly "what list?" then told to pay no attention to the list.

These people are awful and willing to support a dictator, but apparently they draw the line at supporting someone diddling kids. So keeping the Epstein list in the news cycle gives one of the only two places I've seen Trump lose control over his cult, the only other one was when he suggested they take the vaccine early on, and he pivoted when the booing started. This one he can't pivot out of.

So I'll do the one that might keep a few potential brownshirts from joining, instead of trying to point out he's an authoritarian fascist which they'll just call me a commie and then ask him to step on their neck harder.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

MAGA has been largely driven by the idea of globalist pedophilic sex trafficking rings. They were literally shooting up a pizza parlor because it supposedly ran child rape in its basement - when the place didn’t even have a basement. They believe there’s a video of Hillary Clinton ripping a child’s face off to get high on “adenochrome.”

And the reality is that there was a high level sex trafficking ring for the wealthy and powerful, that was covered up by various high level interests - but that their “savior” figure who was supposed to expose it was always in on it.

The hope is that MAGA idiots will see this and turn on him. But the reality is they won’t. It’s turned into a religion. Alex Jones seemed like he was going to break back when they first started denying the files exist, but he’s fully back on the Trump train.

It’s a hope that this will finally be the straw that breaks the camels back - that they will realize that their Christ has always been an Antichrist, coming from a misguided belief that these people are capable of seeing reason.

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'd back a cartel if they assassinated Trump et al.

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Epstein list

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Yes, their plans and everything else that evacuates from this turd circus are awful, but bear in mind they’re not very good at anything at all. I’m sure the plan is to land at Belize and drive up in unmarked Penske rental trucks.

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