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I'll go first.
I'll add:
"AI bad" overrides "Piracy ok", though. I've seen threads in the main piracy community where the general consensus seemed to be that copyright should be used as a weapon against AI.
Just a guess. Because piracy advocacy isn't about not paying, it's about not supporting megacorporations and anti-artistic business models. It's a form of protest, I suspect most advocates would buy media legally when it doesn't feel enshittified.
They would probably also support companies that used AI but did not fire workers as a result.
- Piracy ok
I'm not sure how true that is for the largest instance (lemmy.world) but apart from that it seems quite on point
I think you're right on all these points, though it depends a bit on what part of the Fediverse you're exposed to.
On the point of anti-capitalism, I agree, but (again, depending on the part of the Fediverse) there's also an incredibly high amount of open-minded people here, compared to other more mainstream social media (like Reddit). I speak much from my perspective of being from lemmy.zip, which I'm impressed by the healthiness of the community since I joined. But there are also less "healthy" instances like lemmy.ml which is considered by many to be infested with tankies (anti-capitalism?).
And yes, the average age seems to be around mid-30s to me, based solely on how people speak and what they reminisce about.
- The average age seems to be much higher. I joined when I was 16 and feel quite young unlike on other social media.
Enjoy. Less echo bubbles. This goes in both directions, but mainly I value that younger people are able to be part of "mature conversations". Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to underestimate your worldview or anything. It's just that I'm remembering when I was around your age, the Internet was in a raw form, and it felt much like this. I was amazed to be able to talk with other adults and learn about their tastes on say books or movies when I joined some theme specific chat channel (via protocol IRC). At some point this changed drastically (e.g. Facebook connecting people from real life/ schools).. and I think nowadays TikTok, Insta, and for the most part, even YouTube are just centered around being young, pretty... very much like mainstream TV.
Most of Lemmy is anti-AI, especially generative AI.
Which seems uninformed and ridiculous as Deep Learning for classification and regression problems is an absolute valid tool that cannot be replaced anymore in many domains. I don't care about LLM bullshit, but being "against Deep Learning in general" is stupid.
Nobody* is talking about machine learning when they say “AI” these days. They mean LLMs and generative AI and especially the way it is being forced into everything and destroying the environment to do so.
* not literally; there is certainly at least one person out there who objects to machine learning, deep learning, or whatever you want to call it. However this is not the general sentiment.
I think the biggest issues Lemmy has with it, which are valid, boil down to environmental impact, AI being used to replace working class people instead of making their lives better, and the way it’s being used to erase art as a part of human culture. If those three things weren’t an issue I’d be less wary of AI.
Biases are indeed usually uninformed and ridiculous.
If you get all your info from Lemmy you'd probably think that AI is a worthless hype bubble that can't do anything right and will collapse and go away in a few years.
Are people anti non-generative AI? Or is broader AI just getting dragged in to the justified anti genAI sentiment?
I think it's both. Some people dislike all AI because of generative AI like LLM's, but many people seem to care about making the distinction between generative AI and traditional ML.
People before profit.
Cities should be walkable
AI as we know it was unethically developed and is more marketing than solution.
Trans rights are human rights. Even more, gender is a spectrum, so everyone really, is a tiny bit trans.
Fuck Israel.
Punch fascists.
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Lemmy is not neurotypical and it shows up with various discussions. Discussions here tend to assume autism or AuDHD as typical behavior, when it is only typical for the group of people assembled here.
Also half of all lemmings are transgender. No idea why.
The chemicals in the protocols are turning the nerds gay
Woke and DEI, is why. Now put the damn socks on and get to work. Once Arch is installed, you may indulge in one Blåhaj
Trans people are almost attacked or banned all other platforms or at least astroturfed, it does make sense
It is very left, sometimes infuriatingly so when the people here defend autocratic countries such as Iran.
Or communists defending the CCP seemingly entirely due to their name
That's mostly .ml users not most of Lemmy and none of PieFed
Always will be that way, too.
IIRC, Lemmy.ml was the first instance; the ones who built Lemmy. We're kind of the "normies" who've invaded their space.
I appreciate them for building Lemmy and letting it remain free ("freedom" free). Still, I'll argue with people who are saying crazy stuff like NK being a good place for its citizens to live...
"Maduro must have won the election fair and square because the US said he didn't."
Arguing that Israel and the US shouldn't indiscriminately bomb Iran is not the same as defending their leadership.
IMHO Lemmy feels similar to how Reddit felt 10-15 years ago. The community seems closer to my age. The population is smaller. The content is less formulaic.
The biases shown here feel like a distillation of the broader internet (similar to what Reddit used to be). We like animals and nature, we hate intrusive powerful forces like large corporations or invasive governments. We share a shit-post-y sense of humor. We tend to lean left politically. We love to feel like we know more than we actually do.
On any given subject, if you ask “What would the internet think about this?” you will probably find that same opinion reflected strongly here.
Clearly a severe leftist bias. Not just in the context of US politics.
It's not a bias if you're right
This probably sounds like a dodge of an answer, but...
It depends on the Lemmy instance. Some are anarchistic, some are very left wing anti-establishment, some are hardcore tankies, and I've heard somewhere there's a right-wing instance? Some hate certain technologies, some love those technologies, etc.
I don't think it's realistic to lump all Lemmy instances (and users) together under a single ideological umbrella. That's like lumping everyone from America or any other county together for their opinions.
I've run into:
Thinking we're better than everyone who's still on Reddit
It's not bias if you're right
Linux/SteamDeck = Good Anything else = bad
Porn games should be available for all, but GOG sucks because they did something shitty years ago.
The only thing worse than a right winger is the wrong kind of leftist. (I feel this is a global thing not only US)
All capitalism is bad, and any attempt to rein it in is failure before any attempts.
World == USA
Incredible US bias here to the point where many discussions completely ignore the existence of the rest of the world.
Lemmy is actually worse than reddit here. The only network that at least tries to be cosmopolitan is Mastodon and that's why it just feels so much healthier there.
Nintendo is worse than EA, Activision, Konami, Ubisoft, Epic, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, Twitter, Nestle, and the IDF combined.
There may be some things they do that annoy me, but there also a lot of things they do that I like, and I don't think they're anywhere near the worst in the industry right now. It is just so very tiring that it is seemingly impossible to discuss anything related to Nintendo at all without threads immediately devolving into a circlejerk about how much some of y'all hate anyone who dares to even enjoy their games.
Since the rules preclude it, we can't discuss what Lemmy is most biased about. The remaining biases tend to be in the tech/nerdcore genre, which makes sense, since many average Joe users have problems navigating the registration/instance selection process, keeping their numbers down on the platform.
Im still pretty unclear on the whole instance selection thing. I just tried a few until one worked.
If in doubt, just try it until it works. If it still doesnt work either learn why or give up.
I haven't seen much Zionist propaganda here (unlike major subreddits, for example) and, when it is posted, it's e-boo'd with downvotes. 👍
For as politically Left as Lemmy tends to run there still seems to be a high level of mysoginy.
Two things that I haven't seen yet.
Much higher general tech and math/stats literacy than other spaces on the internet
An overwhelming hatred for Nintendo when most of the rest of the internet swallows their boot in order to play their new games because let's face it, they make some of the most well-polished 3D platformers.
