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I’d go with:

  1. Russian

  2. Mandarin

  3. Korean

  4. Spanish

  5. Ancient Sumerian as a casual own to thr archeologists.

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[–] dougfir@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)
  1. linear B

  2. proto indo european

  3. Humpback Whale

  4. english

  5. Universal Language (27th Century EE)

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I just read the new book on Proto-Indo-European, and naturally it includes several unnecessary asides about the Ukraine War, which is, after all, "a war about language." But it says that's because Putin wants to recreate a Russophone empire, and doesn't mention anything about Ukraine banning the Russian language in schools or their Nazi mercenaries murdering civilians for speaking Russian. Anti-Soviet hangups show up elsewhere in the text. (The author did visit Russia for research, and does bemoan the fact that we're in for some delays on exciting scholarship because Russian academics are banned from conferences.)

[–] dougfir@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

brainworms aside i would be interested to learn more about PIE. what was the book called?

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Proto: How One Ancient Language Went Global, by Laura Spinney. Other than those brianworms it's a really good book. I had been reading David Anthony's The Horse, The Wheel, and Language but got bogged down in pottery types. Started Proto and immediately learned just how much has changed in the field even since Anthony's book was published in 2007.

Although there's talk of the historical linguistics aspects and how linguists know how to chart the changes that took place, it also makes use of genetics and anthropology to examine how a language of steppe herders managed to dominate Eurasia without (necessarily) involving massive campaigns of conquest. (No need to be wary of the genetics aspect - it's to figure out chronology and not to imply anything untoward or nationalistic.)

Edit - As for Linear B - The Decipherment of Linear B by John Chadwick is excellent. Chadwick must have been a great teacher; it's as definitive as any "definitive introduction" I've ever read.

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

I just read Proto recently also. I second the recommendation, great book.

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[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Pro-Ukraine, “pro-sovereignty” libs have a seething hatred for the USSR, without which there would be no such thing as an independent Ukraine. They will never shut up about Ukrainian sovereignty but will never ever forgive the USSR for, in 1939, taking back Ukrainian land that was stolen by Poland (which committed ethnic cleansing) instead of gifting it to the Germans. In fact any in depth discussion of September 1939 with the Ukrainian sovereignty fan club reveals that they either have near-zero knowledge on the history of Ukraine, or apparently believe that western Ukraine belongs to Poland.

If “sovereignty” libs could literally rewrite history, Ukraine would be an ethnically cleansed German settler-colony.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

linear B

monkey's paw: you can speak it but not read it

[–] dougfir@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

for a serious answer, it would probably be spanish, mandarin, thai, brazilian portuguese, and either farsi or levantine arabic

  1. Russian
  2. Mandarin
  3. Spanish
  4. Arabic
  5. French

Yes, I lack creativity.

[–] ColombianLenin@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
  1. Muysca: Native language from the indigenous population in Bogotá, Colombia.
  2. Mandarin.
  3. Russian.
  4. Vietnamese.
  5. Arabic
[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)
  1. Shang Dynasty Chinese

  2. Akkadian/Old Aramaic

  3. Sanskrit

  4. Ancient Egyptian

  5. Ancient Khosic

Refuse to elaborate to linguists and historians.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

That's okay you and I both know your plans to open the Stargate

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago
  1. Dolphinese, for the meme value.
  2. Sparrow
  3. the language of the bumblebees
  4. Arabic
  5. Mandarin
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What's the old coding language the US uses for its nuclear weapons again? saruman-orb

  1. English grillman

  2. Latin think-about-it

  3. Japanese luffy-wave

  4. Mandarin chairman-meow

  5. The language of dance bridget-vibe

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

1, 2, 3 - Mandarin, Spanish, and Arabic - for practicality

4 - Korean - I actually just really like the language. Also Starcraft.

5 - (redacted) - My family would be disappointed if I didn't spend one of my magic languages on learning the language of the homeland. And it's a fine country that I'd like to visit, and mutually intelligible with some other better languages, so, sure.

[–] i_drink_bleach@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

In addition to English:

  1. Cantonese (My partner's family is from Hong Kong and they all speak either exclusively Cantonese or a mix of Cantonese and English that they rapidly switch between mid sentence. Makes family gatherings... frustrating. They used to think I actually understood Cantonese because I was fluent at picking out the context of what they said in English and then using other context clues to figure out WTF they just said XD)
  2. Mandarin (Most common language on Earth aside from English)
  3. Spanish (Also one of the most common languages on Earth)
  4. Russian (Becoming more and more useful as things keep happening)
  5. French (My neighbors to the north have a lot of French-speakers. Plus I can sound all cultured and shit. Even having an absolute meltdown of swearing and curse words still sounds kinda sexy in French XD)
[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I’m already fluent in English and Spanish, and mildly proficient in German and Mandarin.

The next languages on my list, after improving my fluency in German and Mandarin, are:

Latin, French, Portuguese

Ancient and Modern Greek

Sanskrit and Hindi

Irish (language of many of my recent ancestors and endangered language)

Guaraní (I plan to live in Paraguay would actually use this regularly living there).

Russian

Arabic

I know that’s more than 5, but these are all languages I have begun to dabble in at various points, and I feel like if I learned all of them to fluency or near fluency, my language learning obsession would finally be satisfied and I could retire from it, so to speak.

[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I would love to learn Hindi, but I came to realize my brain could not discern between several different sounds. I physically couls not recognize that the letters sounded different in any way. It was there that I found my limits and humbly backed off.

[–] aebletrae@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

Don't let that stop you. Languages don't work as isolated sounds so don't overly focus on those. You have extra homophones to disambiguate, yes, but which examples are you actually worried about where context won't help you out, where you can't ask for a little clarification, or turn on subtitles?

I struggle with speech recognition generally so, while I've given up on the balanced approach of traditional courses, I've had success concentrating more on reading for learning (Japanese, which has lots of homophones) and using listening exercises as training for learning that way later on. I can describe what I've found helpful if you want the details.

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[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago
  • Pig Latin
  • Dothraki
  • Esperanto
  • Victorian era Language of flowers
  • DnD common
[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Mandarin Russian Spanish Arabic Japanese

4 to maximize the amount of people I can communicate with and 1 because I cannot deny my weeb nature completely.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Mandarin

Russian

Spanish

Arabic

Sinhala

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago
  1. spanish
  2. mandarin
  3. russian
  4. arabic
  5. rust
[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

Mandarin, Russian, Arabic and Spanish seem like gimmes to me.

After that I'm not sure.

French maybe?

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

what languages will optimize putting the most brainworms into my head the fastest?

Russian is definitely #1 after english but idk beyond that

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

mandarin

spanish

assembly

the correspondence

cat

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

five? i'm barely fluent in one.

[–] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

vanity, "I choose this because of my autistic fixations": koine greek coptic biblical Hebrew

then Spanish and Mandarin for practical real life stuff.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

1- Mandarin

2- Mapudungun

3- Nahuatl

4- Arabic

5- Portuguese

[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
  1. Mandarin
  2. Chahta anumpa
  3. Japanese (though I've already studied a fair amount of Japanese)
  4. Yiddish
  5. Arabic

This is assuming this is in addition to English; otherwise we can probably switch it for #5

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

I genuinely think Russian is a very beautiful sounding language. I wish I had any practical context for learning it.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
  1. Vulgar Latin
  2. Mandarin
  3. Japanese
  4. Spanish
  5. German
[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Russian Mandarin Yiddish Gaelic Pashtun

Efit: Swap pashtun for farsi

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

Taking UN list of official languages as an answer.

[–] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago
  1. Mandarin
  2. Spanish
  3. Arabic
  4. Gaelic
  5. Anishnaabemowin
[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

1.Mandarin

2.Russian

3.Arabic

4.Spanish

5.Indonesian

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Might throw in for Farsi instead of Indonesian or French if more cool shit starts happening in the AES.

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[–] SnakeEyes@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

1 Portuguese 2 French 3 Arabic 4 mandarin 5 Korean

Also I would like to learn more creole and patois

VERY GOOD thread

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
  1. Nahuatl (all dialects if possible)

  2. Mandarin

  3. Aramaic

  4. Quechua (if I can understand the knots)

  5. RongoRongo 😔

[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

Nahuatl (Pipil or Huasteca if I have to pick a dialect), Arabic (Egyptian or Levant), Mandarin, Swahili, Russian

Ithkuil would be cool, but I'd be the only fluent speaker on earth.

[–] Hermes@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Chinese and Russian are the two that I think would be most useful, anything further that I say would make it easier to dox me.

23/25 Hexbears (incl. me) who don't know Mandarin Chinese selected Mandarin Chinese, 14/25 Russian. Don't let .welt find out about this.

It would be fun to do a language learning class at some point, it is a lot of work though.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago
  1. Mandarin

  2. Portuguese

  3. Arabic

  4. Spanish

  5. Navajo

I know a bit of Italian and Japanese so that would be a waste

[–] musicenjoyer@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

1: Arabic 2: Russian 3:Indonesian (only studied a few of it) 4: Mandarin 5: Welsh

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Assuming the five languages are in addition to English:

Spanish

French

Russian

Mandarin

Japanese

[–] ourtimewillcome@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago
  • polish (mazovian dialect)
  • ukrainian (slobozhan dialect)
  • serbo-croat (štokavian dialect)
  • bulgarian (kotel-elena-dryanovo dialect)
  • mandarin (dungan dialect)
[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Picking languages I've never studied so I don't accidentally remind myself that I have flashcards to do

  1. Tamil
  2. Farsi
  3. Mandarin
  4. Classical Chinese
  5. Etruscan
[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If we nominate a language we already started learning but aren't fully fluent can we reallocate those skill points to another language? I would mainly like to speak;

  1. Mandarin
  2. Spanish
  3. One of the wu languages either shanghainese or Suzhounese
  4. Bahasa indonesia
  5. Japanese

Cos that's what my friends speak

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