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Daily reminder that Codeberg is always the good alternative to corporate bastards like this idiot
I don't get it. AI is a tool. My CEO didn't care about what tools I use, as long as I got the job done. Why do they suddenly think they have to force us to use a certain tool to get the job done? They are clueless, yet they think they know what we need.
Because like AI, your CEO is a tool.
Because unlike with the other tools you use the CEO of your company is investing millions of dollars into AI and they want a big return on their investment.
I don't think these CEOs have quite figured out that LLM developers are creating something that can more easily replace a CEO than a developer.
Return? No, there is no return on investment from AI. If there really was a return to be had from Devs, you wouldn't have to force them to use it.
This is a saving face and covering their asses exercise. Option 1 is "We spent the money, nobody's using it, the bubbles gonna burst", the other choice is "if we can ramp up the usage numbers before the earnings call, we can get some of that sweet investor money to buy us out of being mauled by our shareholders".
It's shitty management, making shitty decisions to cover up their previous shitty decisions
That's the point though. These CEOs don't know that there is not going to be an "AI revolution". They all think they are getting in on the ground floor of the next Google or Facebook. They genuinely believe that these "AI's" are going to revolutionize the Internet.
That's exactly why Elmo went from "AI is too dangerous and development on it must be stopped" to "I'm gonna built the best AI ever and I'll call it Grok cause I want everyone to think I'm a relatable sci-fi nerd."
At this stage,I can't believe that they are stupid enough to believe the shit that comes out of their mouths. Hence I say that it's not about the return from AI, but riding the bubble before it pops, and justifying their stupidity to others by force feeding the crap they spent their money on down our throats in the hope that we don't just throw it up on them
GitHub is owned by Microsoft, and Microsoft is forcing AI on all the employees
They all need to be sued for unethical “Embrace, Extend and Extinguish” practices again
best I can do is rusty dull guillotine
nah rusty and a blade that is serrated.... make way more mess. As an aside the guillotine was designed for theatre, the mechanism actually makes that loud noise on purpose! Pointless to kill someone without a bit of theatre don't ya think
Honestly I've been recommending setting up a personal git store and cloning any project you like, I imagine the next phase of this is Microsoft making a claim that if Copilot 'assisted' all these projects, Microsoft is a part owner of all these projects - in a gambit to swallow and own open source.
loads of self hosted alternatives if you so require it
I think part of it is because they think they can train models off developers, then replace them with models. The other is that the company is heavily invested in coding LLMs and the tooling for them, so they are trying to hype them up.
Why do they suddenly think they have to force us to use a certain tool to get the job done?
Not just that... why do they have to threat and push for people to use a tool that allegedly is fantastic and makes everything better and faster?... the answer is that it does not work but they need to pump the numbers to keep the bubble going
It's not about individual contributors using the right tools to get the job done. It's about needing fewer individual contributors in the first place.
If AI actually accomplishes what it's being sold as, a company can maintain or even increase its productivity with a fraction of its current spending on labor. Labor is one of the largest chunks of spending a company has so, if not the largest, so reducing that greatly reduces spending which means for same or higher company income, the net profit goes up and as always, the line must go up.
tl;dr Modern Capitalism is why they care
They are clueless, yet they think they know what we need.
Accurate description of most managers i've encountered.
Contradictory to the title, this message is not to the developers, developers don't care what github ceo thinks, and they should know it. This might be for the management of other companies to allow using ai or force ai usage.
such an easy choice ......
(edit: I followed up and got out. This too is now self-hosted and codeberg when needed)
AI can only deliver answers based on training code developers manually wrote, so hod do they expect to train AI in the future if there is no more developers writing code by themselves? You train AI on AI-generated code? Sounds like expected enshittification down the line. Inbreeding basically.
Also, small fact is that they invested so much money into AI, that they can't allow it to fail. Such comments never came from people who don't depend on AI adoption.
Expectation: High quality code done quickly by AI.
Reality: Low quality AI generated bug reports being spammed in the hopes the spammers can get bug bounty for fixing them, with AI of course.
Threatening remarks like that are why I learned PHPUnit and XDebug, and yeah it made me become a better developer, but often times these are just empty statements.
AI is just another tool in my toolbox, but it's not everything.
This part really stuck out for me:
This is the latest example of a strange marketing strategy by AI companies. Instead of selling products based on helpful features and letting users decide, executives often deploy scare tactics that essentially warn people they will become obsolete if they don't get on the AI bandwagon.
If hype doesn't work, try threats!
Which is how you know they have a good product that they have full faith in.
when they have to blackmail, threaten, coerce, and force people to accept their product.
"Managing agents to achieve outcomes may sound unfulfilling to many"
No shit, man.
it's also sort of a description of his own role, innit?
does "embracing AI" means replacing all these execs with it? or is it "too far"?
No, they’re all super special and have an “instinct” that a robot could never have. Of course the same does not go for artists or anyone who does the actual work for these “titans of industry”.
*by “instinct” we, of course, mean survivorship bias based on what is essentially gambling, exploitation, and being too big to fail.
I asked an AI to generate me some code yesterday. A simple interface to a REST API with about 6 endpoints.
And the code it made almost worked. A few fixes here and there to methods it pulled out of it's arse, but were close enough to real ones to be an easy fix.
But the REST API it made code for wasn't the one I gave it. Bore no resemblance to it in fact.
People need to realise that MS isn't forcing it's devs to write all code with AI because they want better code. It's because they desperately need training data so they can sell their slop generators to gullible CEOs.
Message to Github CEO: your job is one thing AI is best at.
Is his message: “let us scrape your code or go away, and we gonna scrape it anyway” note: scrape = steal
Funny thing to say after using their code to train the shitty-ass AI. Developers don't need AI, but AI certainly needs developers.
real messages: embrace AI, because i still need to grift from investor's money, because AI is just a hype"
Get out or what? GitHub?
I don’t understand this insistence that all developers must use AI.
If AI made a developer better, why insist, wouldn’t the vibe coders outcompete all others?
Wouldn’t they need non AI coders to train things?
Or is it because this snake oil pitch only works when everyone does it so no one notices it’s detrimental effects?
Does github copilot include attributions and licenses from projects it copy paste code from or it's just stealing and pretending like nothing happened like all other AI ?
I don’t trust Copilot to make basic suggestions, let alone edits, on an html file.
Bro you are literally not necessary, not even the best at what you do. See everyone on codeberg.
GitHub is being pushy? Fucking GitHub?
Should we tell him git doesn’t actually need GitHub? That it existed just fine before it and will continue to exist after it?
Ima tell him…
Move to Codeberg (esp. if you're European) - but please don't forget to donate something as well. If we don't pay for actual freedom, we won't be able to keep it.