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[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 78 points 1 year ago

Fellow Ameribros will get salty but this is exactly what freedom looks like.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Freedom means won't go to jail for this, but it doesn't mean you won't get punched if you insult somebody.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you get insulted over a piece of cloth to the point where you're hurting others, you need to get a hold of yourself.

[-] saze@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

So hanging up a nazi flag should be completely acceptable. Got it

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every no violence rule has a "unless it's a nazi" clause attached to it, that goes without saying.

[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

No, but using violence to stop someone doing it is barbaric

[-] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Tell that to half of Lemmy. These people love punching Nazi memes.

[-] Appleseuss@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Because punching nazis is cathartic

[-] msage@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

And morally correct.

Never let intolerance take root.

[-] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

How would you know? You've never punched a Nazi.

There is exactly one type of person who doesn’t want to punch a Nazi.

[-] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Most reasonable people? Anyone who doesn't LARP on the Internet?

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

No, a Nazi.
If you tolerate people that are intolerant towards you under the guise of tolerance, then you are just giving up tolerance.

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Live-action role play on the internet?

Isn’t that an oxymoron?

[-] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Outdated definition, now it's used for people pretending to be something they're not more generally. Right wingers getting into camo and doing drill pretending to be military. Terminally online left wingers pretending they could punch a nazi or start a revolution.

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[-] Redrum714@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

If you think they’re getting upset over a literal piece of cloth you’re probably stupid enough to get beat up over a flag lol

[-] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

A lot of people died for that piece of cloth.

I also had enchiladas for dinner last night. I'm gonna need a high quality cloth to wipe my ass.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you for your service

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think there's a larger emotional attachment for some, especially those that served in the military and had friends die just to get that flag up the next hill, or to fly over the next objective. In this military case I suspect it's much more than a piece of cloth, it's their memories of those brothers in arms or even the greatest time in their lives.

In Nationalistic countries like WW2 Japan, Germany, modern America, a person's whole identity is contained in that flag. While the Rebel flag is traditionally the sign of rednecks for many or the love of a regional area one grew up in, it's the representation of oppression, racism, and losers from a very short span of time in American history. That last part might trigger some more than the oppression and racism parts as that's their identity one's talking about.

Even as a Canadian I'm saddened to see our flag fly with US political party flags as a protest and how it now represents a very vocal fringe segment of our society when previously we weren't as "Patriotic" with our flag waving outside of Canada Day or sporting events. This previously reserved aspect was yet another thing that was a difference to our southern cousins. It's been hijacked when it didn't have that connection previously.

This can also be equated in some ways like someone's childhood blankey being jumped on and burnt could cause some great grief due to memories of their mother or grandmother that made it. Humans have a great ability to package and attach meaning to things no matter the extreme.

Then one is up against feelings, not logic of right or wrong. Punching someone then becomes a larger possibility as it's emotionally not connected to the logical side of us.

Feelings are a hell of a thing and those burning or waving flags know this and this is why it can get the attention they want.

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[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly if you're insulted that somebody is making a harmless joke at the expense of your country's flag you need to lighten up.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

That is perfectly acceptable.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

"you can't do that"

"freedom bitch"

"rrrrRRRRREEEEEEEEE"

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[-] Melkath@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Republicans already do this with their swimwear.

Guess they were ahead of the curve for once.

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

For the traditional law and order crowd (not so sure now) wearing anything the US flag is unlawful until 1989 but now is still considered poor Etiquette and rarely acknowledged as such.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Also, the flag code is merely suggested standards for how to care for the Flag, and not a law that citizens must abide by. To go further, there is distinction between the flag, and flag motifs. Flag print toilet paper, totally okay, flag print jockstrap, totally okay. Taking your purpose made American flag, and wearing it as a cape, not okay. Wearing an American flag print towel as a cape, totally okay.

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[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

It has other uses. Excessive use by others can identify them as people you should avoid, while flag burning is very much in the spirit of that toilet paper.

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[-] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago

This will free my butthole.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm against this. Your butthole deserves better.

Besides, everyone knows they make fantastic paper towels due to how oil-absorbent they are.

[-] LesDeuxBonsYeux@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

It absorbs oil really well

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

They claim you have freedom of speech, and yet if you burn an american flag you get put on a terrorist watch list.

[-] TwinTusks@outpost.zeuslink.net 10 points 1 year ago
[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah It's pretty ridiculous. There's been lots of cases of people who attended a flag burning for the fuck of it and ended up on a watch list. Even the guys who do it annually just as a statement that they can ended up on there. It's not technically illegal but the state REALLY wishes it was.

[-] SamboT@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago
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[-] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Non-american here. Why would u want to use ur flag as toilet paper anyway?

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago

Counterpoint: why shouldn't you?

A flag is a piece of fabric. People who swear their allegiance to it only tell the people more powerful than them that they will do any horrific things they are told as long as it uses that exact pattern of colours. They lose their individualism.

Know what else is a fabric? Toilet paper.

[-] Glytch@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 year ago

Counter-counterpoint: it'll clog your pipes and ruin your septic system if you flush fabric.

That's really the only reason not to use a flag.

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[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

No, it's paper. It's in the name.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I know. I was asking because the person I replied to said it was fabric, and my time working for a paper products company made me question their statement.

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[-] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Ahh, so the goal of this meme is to reemphasize the right to free speech and expression and to remind people not to lose their individuality by being nationalist. Fair enough.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

That ink would likely irritate your anus.

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

And probably both poison you and leave even more toxic shit behind than you had when you started.

[-] LesDeuxBonsYeux@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

It's probably full of oil

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