Some people don't want to hear this but Mastodon will never be mainstream without major changes. Even Mastodon users are all on other platforms. I'm not planning to go to Bluesky tho.
this post was submitted on 07 May 2025
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I use only Mastodon, even though I got accounts on other platforms too. I'm not super sure what the issue is with Mastodon, but, as I'm moving away from Youtube, the thing I'm missing is, paradoxically, the algorithm suggesting different creators or videos. To clarify: I hate that, I think is sick and controlling, but, as I have used that social for so many years, I think I got quite addicted. Can be the same for other users?
I'm not on any other platform except Lemmy and Mastodon. Well, I'm on Facebook but only to find events nearby and have been considering deleting it for a while.
Mastodon and Lemmy are better off not being "mainstream". There's a huge amount of crap that comes with being that.
It also has the network problem now. BlueSky quickly got the numbers because it was easy at the right time. It was perfect for the Xodus. Mastodon missed that window. It can get easier and sexier, but it missed that window and will need another.
I use Mastodon the exact same way I used Facebook and it works out great.
It's just posts and updates on my life and projects, and it just works. Sometimes I get feedback, sometimes not.
Photo of a meal, my cat, projects, car repairs, shit I see around. It works fine.
I don't understand why govt institutions don't just band together and use one of their many already running servers and add a mastodon or similar instance, so they won't ever need to worry about their shit being taken offline
Like, get all federal agencies and currently serving politicians to post on the govt-run mastodon, instead of bsky or xitter.
Me like other people, had the idea of ECI (European citizen initiative) to ask EU level entities to start using the Fediverse. The process is quite slow as I do not have much time but, if you are European and can help, have a look here:
An European Citizens' Initiative for the adoption of the Fediverse in the European Union's institutions:
In my opinion it's not bad to have a diverse landscape with different options. I believe the best course of action for many institutions should be to use both of these options simultaneously. Any organisation with a social media, communications or other type of public relations team should be able to set up a crossposter easily enough.
In my opinion it's not bad to have a diverse landscape with different options.
Not with Comms tools. We had this in the 90s with email and the various walled gardens like CompuServe and AOL. You couldn't talk to your friends if they were on another system.
Mastodon is SMTP for micro logging. Different servers is fine, but they all need to talk to each other.
Lemmy is NNTP. It's just the same thing reinvented 30 years later and lower latency.
But they don't. Organisations seem to be unable or unwilling to have a presence on multiple sites, or at most they seem to choose either X+BlueSky or X+Mastodon
Every extra platform costs time to take care of.
It makes sense that they would go where the users are.
But not having a separate, European instance federated into the BlueSky network, that's the real wtf.
What if I told you Bluesky federates just as well as WhatsApp does with XMPP.
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Just a question here as I dont know Mastodont that well. But how do you do vertified accounts? Is there some federally elected institution that will vertify user who requires that sort of vertification? Because to me there is huge amount of fake accounts and copycats and it is as hard to check if they are real as it is to check the spam mail that came from a scamy address. I guess institutions don't want to be on a platform full of copycats and constantly proving they are the official account. Among other things...
If institutions are hosting their instance themselves, then they are the verifying authority. It should not be that hard to have a .gov domain for a public institution.
You basically verify your account yourself, by adding a link to it on your website with rel="me" HTML attribute.
Considering Mastodon sucks from a UX perspective i don't blame them or users. Mastodon seems to be a great case of Open Source and decentralized being so fervently followed that people ignore the absolute real problems with it thus ensuring it will never become any type of mainstream.
Actually trying to find interesting content on Mastodon is fuckin awful, bluesky learned what i liked and hands me new awesome artists pretty much daily. Combine that with the whole having to select an instance and remember how to use it and cross instance posting and blah blah blah and your average person is not even going to look at Mastodon
I have no issues finding content on mastodon, just search and follow hashtags.
And most people prefer content algorithms. Or maybe a better way of phrasing it would be they're used to and expect content algorithms. Having to actively search for and follow topics is not only yet another hoop users have to jump through (good UX has as few steps as possible to get you where you want, a good chunk of users jumps ship at every step) it also requires that they know which hashtags are being used for the content they want to see beforehand, which might be difficult for you if you relied on content algorithms before.
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I still don't understand what inherent appeal Bluesky has. Is it the familiarity? Maybe the delusional belief that corporations are the designated social media providers?
You don't have to pick a server. You don't have to pick a software (i.e Mastodon, Misskey, Chrrypick, etc). All likes and comments are actually shown when you view posts. When you search for something it actually comes up with results. It offers algorithms which believe it or not is a feature people want.
You don't need to choose a server with bsky, that's it. It's just one big blob of everyone where no one really cares what kind of content or how often you post.
With Mastodon, you need to pick a server, and then there's funny things like "oh, you haven't posted for a while, we're blocking your account" or concerns that the server you chose may decide you're not fitting. That and mastodon.social wasn't available to register for a while as I recall.
Add to that the fact that your instance may not be federated with whoever you're trying to share stuff to. Meanwhile with bsky it's just "do you have bsky yes or no".
People care about ease of use way more than whether it's corporate or not.
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It's easy to use
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Shoutout to the European Commission: https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission
Also: Court of Justice of the EU @Curia@curia.social-network.europa.eu
These stopped being maintained in 2024 unfortunately:
- EU Food Safety Administration https://social.network.europa.eu/@EFSA
- EU Data Protection Supervisor https://social.network.europa.eu/@EDPS
- EU Space Program Administration https://social.network.europa.eu/@EUSPA
- EU Aid and Crisis response https://social.network.europa.eu/@EC_ECHO
If something can be bought, it cant ever be fully trusted.
Junkie Elmo is the correct character to use here. Why do we crave enshitification so badly?
Because it's good now, bad later. Junkies crave good now.
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I wish people appreciated lemmy more than mastodon
As long as we're throwing fediverse wishlist items out there, I wish the Lemmy core developers/founders didn't have such gross political views.
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