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[–] rhubarb@hexbear.net 126 points 11 months ago (4 children)

A feminist guy who is in his late twenties and dates a 19-year-old

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 49 points 11 months ago

He’s feminist because he still splits the bill 50/50. feminism

[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 11 months ago

"Feminist" compared to Andrew Tate

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] PapaEmeritusIII@hexbear.net 64 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I’m gen Z and my partner is a millennial guy #AgeGap #PowerDynamics

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(we were born in ‘98 and ‘95, respectively) picard-troll

[–] turmoil@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago

stuff like this really illustrates how fake generations are. you're in a "different generation" with someone 3 years older, but in the "same generation" as someone 15 years younger, while your partner is in the "same generation" as someone 15 years older

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 63 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Suddenly it makes a lot of sense why women 10-15 years younger than me keep hitting on me despite me really not having any interest in dating someone that much younger lol (I'm ~40 but I do also look kinda younger). Must fuckin suck to be a young woman with all this shit.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can't say much for how the straight demographic at that age is holding up because the only straight people i hang out with are a few pre-transition friends who are roughly my age, but when i'm in queer spaces and have a conversation with younger women i often hear them say stuff like "you know, i'm actually pan, BUT ..." and then the horror stories about why they've given up on men begin.

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[–] turmoil@hexbear.net 56 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm getting a little uncomfortable with the whole "all gen Z men are fascists" rhetoric lately. I don't think that's true. way too many of them are for sure, but there's plenty of leftists or at least radlibs too. a lot of Gen Z men at those campus protests for Palestine. from what I can tell Gen Z has been radicalized in all sorts of different directions, but the media only wants to talk about the ones who have been radicalized to the right... for some reason

and let's not act like older men are any better. millennials and Gen X created the manosphere and a lot of them are consuming it too

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 11 months ago

Band-wagon appeal. They want to make the far-right even more popular by making many young men think that everyone else in their group is as well.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 55 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's a vicious cycle of watching porn, thinking real life is a porno, getting frustrated that you're not sexed-up 24/7, seeking out other lonely men, getting radicalized off red pill types that prey on lonely men, rinse and repeat.

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 50 points 11 months ago (2 children)

seeking out other lonely men,

the right move at that stage was kissing other lonely men and finding out true love there

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[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 55 points 11 months ago (4 children)

If you look at the top political streamers, the conservative and manosphere dominates podcasts and twitch streamers. Hasan seems to be the only one in a leftist direction that makes numbers anywhere near all the other guys. Maybe we need others who seem "cool" that appeal to a younger demographic? Idk.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 73 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I think the mainstream western platforms just have an innate disposition to promote right wing stuff. I find it hard to believe that imbeciles like Joe Rogan came out triumphant in the battle in the marketplace of ideas.

[–] grazing7264@hexbear.net 62 points 11 months ago

It's by design - the fascist algorithm designed by fascists to create little fascists is working as intended

treatler hitler-detector

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He was the first comedian to have a podcast where he would just hang out and shoot the shit with other comedy guys or interesting people for a few hours and it grew from there. He triumphed because he was there first.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He actually wasn't the first, Tom Green was and Rogan was even on his podcast when he stole the idea and decided to monetize it

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[–] autism_2@hexbear.net 53 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Psyop article I don't believe men from older generations are any better and especially not the ones going after 19 year old women

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[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 51 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Honestly I feel like I'm taking crazy pills whenever people online talk about this, I barely see any tate influence in the young men I know. The older folks seem wildly misogynistic, in comparison.

And these aren't even just people from like orgs, I volunteer at high schools and professional associations with student wings (in a generally conservative industry) where I meet plenty of young people.

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would like to see any empirical evidence to suggest what percent actually like him/other misogynistic icons. It is definitely far too many but I imagine the media might just be trying to get clicks and shares by saying that everyone is.

[–] AstroStelar@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

In the Netherlands the public broadcaster polled young men and found that one in four "agreed (partially) with Andrew Tate" and that in that group half of them agreed with his statement that women are lazy compared to men.

If you look at support for the far-right, it's usually much higher among young men than among young women, except in France where the RN scores high among both. On average the far-right is supported by a third of young men, going by an EU poll from 2024: https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-young-people-right-wing-voters-far-right-politics-eu-elections-parliament/

The most damning study is this one, where 60% of Gen Z men believe the US has become "too soft and feminine": https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2024/aug/07/gen-z-voters-political-ideology-gender-gap

However, it says that this doesn't make them exceptionally conservative, it only looks like it because young women are turning left at a high rate, creating a large political gap between the genders:

Gen Z men, Deckman noted, have “reverted to the mean of men”: while they’re not necessarily more conservative that most men, they are more conservative than their millennial counterparts.

Note: the graph only considers "liberals" and "conservatives"

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[–] RION@hexbear.net 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Minor downside of transitioning is I will no longer get to mog guys by having an iota of emotional intelligence. I'll just be "normal" or more likely deficient

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I wonder if these guys ever realize, I’m voicing someone else’s opinions and not even getting a crumb of pussy.

Need some sort deprogramming for these dudebros along the lines of: Defending another man’s ideas on a date? Letting ideology ruin a good chance with a girl. Gay as fuck bro. (Jk)

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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

My hope is that nothing really changed for the worse, and it’s just that dating scenes are always dominated by men looking to score instead of get into a serious (and equitable) relationship.

Millennials had h3h3 and pewdiepie. I don’t think it meaningfully prevented those same viewers from a leftist turn if they were ever going to. Sometimes this shit just boils down to “kids can be dumb” and then they turn out fine after their prefrontal cortex finishes developing at 25.

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[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

the articulated details are different, but the trend has generally been 5-15 years older guys with women in my lived experience since high school ended.

when I was in my 20s, my woman friends and colleagues my age were often in longer term relations with guys in their mid 30s. late 20s with 40s. and on and on.

I've never seriously dated someone that much younger. but as I've gotten older the pool of women expressing interest has gotten wider. which I attribute to appearing young for my age, but I'm sure there's more to it.

in my early 20s, it was non existent. which, looking back, I get lol. ignorant, insecure, no plan, shit-not-together.

[–] hogslayer@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago

when will I be able to date with my shit-not-together ooooooooooooooh

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not bagging on you, but men mature late. People also tend to learn from experience and relationships in high school tend to be mutual torment in a lot of ways. Boys/men, being on the winning end of that, snap out of it later because they don’t see the problem until a few heartbreaks.

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[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 32 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Uh, what age range is Gen Z again? There are Gen Z's older than 19, right

Asking for a friend.

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Millennials are basically 82-94 give or take a bit (hard cut of at 80 and 96 I'd say). The oldest zoomers are in their early late 20's early 30s at the most.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 32 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Damn, I really look good for my age.

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can't help but laugh that these were the same people making fun of Arabs for being "misogynistic"

Colonizers always project

[–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 11 months ago

My brain got fried by the ladder theory back in the day so I dunno. Maybe it's just gotten more common.

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