Had $120,000 at the start of the year. Had planned to pull at the beginning of the year, I didn’t. It dropped to $100,000 by early March of I remember correctly. I moved the money into a money market account after that. Where I had the money at has tanked quite a bit more after that. Not sure when I’ll get back in yet. Yes I realize it could recover before I get back in but so far I’ve made the right decision. S&P took major hits recently.
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$25k and climbing but thankfully that's pretty much all in my retirement and I'm not touching it for several more decades.
Actual numbers?
Approaching a half million.
That’s from two people’s combined lifetime efforts at saving for retirement. We max out our retirement contributions and live modestly, I have a mandatory retirement age by law, and we can only hope that the markets will return our savings by then.
For the record, it’s shitty that people’s retirements are tied to the stock market.
401(k) plans never meant to be a complete retirement plan. Where does that leave future retirees?
I read somewhere and can’t find it anymore, but up to 40% of the stock market value is comprised of peoples’ retirement savings or plans.
So you can see how devastating this stock market decline could be if it gets worse, on top of all the issues with jobs it will cause.
$100k when I checked on Friday. Not going to check again, that way madness lies.
An entire lifetime of work, living modestly, saving, funding my retirement accounts, paying a financial advisor to help me make responsible decisions.
Blown up by that orange turd.
Nothing invested means nothing to lose! Never got to play the fucking game.
I haven't looked, but I cut the US out of my portfolio well before this. Probably some, but not too much, and I like my prospects once the tariff selloff is over. Actually, if I can swing it through an available institution I might go even shorter on the US with equity futures.
Just started my retirement fund last year, so far I have lost only $4K but I was being very moderate in my investments.
Well if you can you should max it out now.
Yep, buy low. Don’t try to time it. Just buy low and DCA.
I retired early in September. I lost about 30k. I put this years Roth investment into a cd that doesn’t mature for 3 years because I knew what was coming.
It’s strange but now that I’m not working the loss bothers me less. I think I hated my job so much losing money made me feel like all that hard work and misery was futile.
Luckily, I don’t plan to live off my retirement investments for another 10 years. I reduced my cost of living by building a tiny house, and living super minimally. I live on what could qualify me for food stamps in my city. Instead I have a garden and I grow food.
I have a part time side business that pays most of my expenses and it tends to do better even with economic turmoil because it’s cheaper than buying imports. Sales are up 10% over the same time last year.
I won’t dare to look.
Underrated approach.
Lost a few grands, I don't have much but I was overly leveraged. Not liquidated though, so it might turn around
Haven't sold the 401k, will just hold through it. In my brokerage account, I was up and had been DCAing. I lost about 1/3rd of my profits before I sold it all a few weeks ago. I'm still up overall, and was holding lots of cash in the last several years anyway because I thought we were due for a big downturn. At this rate, though, I'm not really looking to buy the dip. I'm instead planning to move my money abroad and, if I can, find a better place to live than the US.
once the little people sell their assets for pennies, they will just bulk buy it at a bargain and reverse the shitty decisions that made it crash.
just legalized robbery-with-extra-steps.
You make it sound mandatory. Every financial literacy thing will tell you not to panic sell.
not everyone has good financial education, and not everyone can afford to lose so much money when they are currently living off it.
Yep. Poverty sucks. If you can't afford a portfolio you won't be affected, though.
Vulnerable people giving away money without googling it first is a thing that happens, but that's not exactly a conspiracy either.
thats sometimes peoples life savings. not that this makes me specially sad, but isn't a lot of retirement schemes in the US tied to the stock market?
Yes and no. With investments, there's a tradeoff between volatility (how much it grows and shrinks) and average growth rate over the long term. If you're getting old you really should switch to something less volatile.
I'm young and can just wait this out, so I'm invested in (all non-US, thankfully) stocks, which are high-volatility. That's fine. If I was 60 I'd have moved most or all of my stuff out.
(I should mention that I'm actually below the poverty line myself income-wise, and I'm still on team eat-the-rich, plz don't hate me)
I hope no one sells, if anything they should buy more. Assuming, and that’s a big word here, they can afford to.
the fact its crashing so hard means quite a bunch of money was already pulled out.
Appreciated, I was more referring to the ordinary folk that wouldn’t have that level of influence. But I suppose that that’s passed.
Basically zilch since I have so little in retirement savings. I don't make enough to really start saving. I have maybe like $22K saved over the last 10 years.
All my loss has had nothing to do with the economy.
I've had basically everything I own in life thrown away. Twice. Once when I was 19 and got a job on a cruise ship; my parents sold my car and had my siblings move everything out of my room so my brother could take the room, and those two assholes just threw everything in the trash.
It happened again when I got married and my (now ex) wife got rid of everything of mine that I had before we met.
Ouch, baby. Very Ouch.
In January I moved all my 401k funds to a vangaurd stable fund which mostly invested in money markets. My 401k is somehow up from April 1st by a few %. Thinking of reallocating to take advantage of Trump's inevitable reversal.
My guess is he will do it piecemeal as countries cave to his attempt at soliciting bribes. So the market as a whole wont recover all at once. When I see he is starting to reverse individual tariffs, that's when I'll do the reallocation. But until then I think there is more to lose.
Also I shorted Elmo and cashed out high enough to cover the losses on the rest of my portfolio. So somehow I didn't get turbofucked by them this time.
I sold about a third of my shares in my retirement index fund into “cash” about a month ago. This was obviously coming and I figured I would try to time the market in this instance. I didn’t have the balls to do the whole thing but I stand to make a nice gain if I can buy back in on the way up.
The next few years will be a constant whip saw of crashes and “recoveries”, because the big money wins more when prices are volatile. They sell before you can. They buy before you can. It’s a dance they take advantage of, and we should try to as well.
The next ~~few years~~ decade
FTFY.
I’m expecting/hoping that the hamberders do him in by then.
Nothing because I haven't sold anything and aren't planning to either. I hold and keep buying more. Just like I did thru the previous dips.
I haven't checked. It's a long-term investment anyway.
I lost zero because the number going down doesn’t equal the value going down. You only lose if you panic sell.