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[–] Sulv@hexbear.net 78 points 3 days ago (3 children)

She’s a devout Catholic who describes herself as a political centrist, with an appreciation for “family values”…

Girl, these people fucking hate you and want you dead. Don’t bother trying to appeal to their better side, it doesn’t exist.

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

with an appreciation for “family values”…

Nuclear family ideology certainly isn't opposed to gender nonconformity, right? Right??

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

Girl, these people fucking hate you and want you dead. Don’t bother trying to appeal to their better side, it doesn’t exist.

:yea: I don't understand why people think appealing to them will work

[–] graymess@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

She's 20. I don't blame her for not realizing this yet after a childhood of propaganda. Very unfortunate way to get radicalized, but it's gonna happen fast for her.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 88 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

She did this as a form of protest, they had police stationed at the bathroom. I feel like this was so naive and dangerous and it won't change the policy. Really bad stuff can happen to trans women in men's prisons and it will follow you for life :/

[–] dragongloss@hexbear.net 68 points 3 days ago

I respect her conviction. Individual action failing to have large impacts is entirely predictable. This shows the importance of organizing. Organize, become a collective threat, force or demand change because you have the power of the collective backing you up. Become intimidating.

[–] Cadende@hexbear.net 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

yeah. felt like an attempt to "call their bluff" as if they were bluffing about hating her. Did she genuinely think if she seemed normal-christian-white-girl enough they wouldn't touch her? Or maybe that part about "I know that you won't arrest me" was just the catholicism talking and she actually understood she would probably be arrested. She did seem to have some idea of the risks. Still a needless stunt, I can't imagine this getting through to many people :(

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 78 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm still stuck on what she said. It's extremely USAmerican to say, “I’m not a political activist,” and then do political activism.

[–] Cadende@hexbear.net 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah its honestly an affront to language and words how this concept has shaken out... as political action of any kind and caring about things have become so demonized

What she's saying is "I'm one of the normal ones, I'm just like you, I'm not political"

Some parts hide it better than others but the US is a deeply fascist society

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago

Big part of liberalism. Create a false division of "political" and "private", where to be political is icky and taboo and has nothing to do with the task of human coexistance, and being a private individual is cool and fun and allows you to be a small god within your dominion.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Idk, she's also 20 years old. A lot of us thought we were invincible and free from consequences at 20

[–] Cadende@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago
[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It may have gotten into interesting territory if instead of going to the Capitol herself, she had a cis girl look-alike go in her place, and pretend to be her.

I wouldn't expect it to change much but there would be some spectacular gears grinding in the process of detaining a cis woman for entering a bathroom, on suspicion of being a trans woman entering a bathroom.

The winning perspective here is that a bathroom police is eventually going to come for us all.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Maybe but then the charge goes up to impersonation when the double shows ID

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a crime to impersonate a cop or politician, and impersonating public figures often is in conjunction with fraud. But a private citizen who consents to it? I don't think there's a case there.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Its pretty common for cops to fuck with trans people on impersonation charges. Like if you look like a girl but ID says male they're going to mess with you

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

The cops would only be interacting with the accomplice in the situation, not the trans woman.

The goal would be to see if they jump the gun in their eagerness to arrest a trans woman and don't look closely enough to realize that they're just barging into a bathroom and arresting a cis woman.

[–] WoodScientist@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

Did she genuinely think if she seemed normal-christian-white-girl enough they wouldn't touch her?

There are definitely some strains of thought of that kind in parts of the trans community, especially among the trans medicalist folks. There's a subset of trans folks that believe the present upsurge in bigotry is due to the presence of nonbinary people, polyamorous folks, and any other trans folks that don't present as conventional binary heterosexual. Her vibe really screams that. "I just have to show these police that trans people can be perfectly normal, and they'll leave us alone!"

I see this belief as a tragic and misguided self-defense mechanism. It's really hard to accept that there are simply people that will hate you for no reason. It is deeply hard to accept that there are people that want you dead, and there is nothing you can do to dissuade them. It's really easy to fall into the trap of thinking that if trans people simply all acted "normal," then the hate would go away. This kind of thinking is comforting to some people. It at least provides a path out of the nightmare the trans community finds itself in. If we all just became straight-presenting, then everyone would leave us alone. It provides a kind of desperate hope. There is some path forward for the trans community to escape bigotry. If we just assimilate, we can end the madness.

In truth the recent upswing in anti-trans hate has nothing to do with the existence of nonbinary or any other less conventional form of trans folks. People that we would now call nonbinary have existed for generations. The recent upswing in hate is entirely artificial and the result of a deliberate propaganda campaign by Republicans. They lost on the same-sex marriage issue, they managed to overturn Roe, and now they need a new moral panic to rile up the base. That's it. The trans community could be composed entirely of trans women that look and act like this woman and trans men that look and act like frat bros, and the recent upsurge in anti-trans bigotry would still have occurred. They needed someone to hate, so they found someone to hate. It's fascism 101, always find and target the Other.

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 64 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

People should just destroy every men's bathroom in Florida to show them what it's like to be a trans woman

"Sorry, sir, bathroom's out of order and if you go into the women's we will be FORCED to arrest you for being a pedophile and sex pervert."

[–] rentasonder@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

feel like shit, just want them back

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

The cops will know who they're supposed to arrest for using the "wrong" bathroom. It is not cis men.

im-doing-my-part to blow up every public bathroom I encounter (with my doodoo ass)

[–] VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why is it just men being transphobic? Terfs exist, you know

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Damn, guess we have to make public bathrooms illegal for everyone to make the point

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Half of all buildings, we destroy the men's, the other half, women's.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Watching all those spousal conflict sitcoms will finally come in handy

The world is a Amazon warehouse.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 53 points 3 days ago

"thank god we kept women safe" says state that will be underwater within a human lifetime

[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago

Death to Amerikkka obviously but Florida especially

amerikkka

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Hi, my name is Marcy Rheintgen, I'm a twenty year old college student, and I'm writing this letter to tell you that I'm going to break the law.

yea

I know that you know in your heart that transgender people are human too, and that you can't arrest us away. I know that you know in your heart that transgender people are no different from you or anybody else. I know that you know in your heart that the same people that go to church with you, eat in the same restaurants, go to the same schools, root for the same sports teams, watch the same movies, and pray to the same God as you cannot be all bad. I know that you know that I have dignity. That's why I know you won't arrest me.

Peak lib praxis, just a perfect example of the docile, ineffective nature of liberalism

I hope she will look back on this in a few years as a misguided, but ultimately good thing, when she's fighting with the Everglade Maoist People's Liberation Army cuz it made her and some other libs finally realize that the bourgeoisie are NOT human the-deserter

I hope she will be okay if they are so cruel as to put her in prison :(

[–] Xenomorph@hexbear.net 36 points 3 days ago

Going to jail for a fucking bathroom crime (washing your hands while trans).

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Hence why you should use gender neutral bathrooms and just urinate on cops from now on.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So someone could be arrested for walking into the wrong bathroom? They need to make sure this goes to trial, I'd want to hear about how it goes and I bet I'm not the only one.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

Freest country on earth btw