Props to Benn Jordan for doing this a year ago on a slightly lower budget.
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Coming here because I saw how downvoted this post was on Reddit lol. I love that it's triggering the Elon fanboys.
Maybe it was downvoted because of Mormon weirdo Mark Rober and not the content itself?
Based on comments it's the Tesla stans.
Is he a weirdo for being Mormon, or something else?
Yeah don't get me wrong I'm not a Mark Rober fan and I don't think he's making this video because he's anti Elon even, he's just making it because it's popular to hate Elon and Tesla at the moment. It happens to be a good thing, but unfortunately, I think Mark isn't doing it out of virtue.
Who cares about virtue? I just want to be entertained by Tesla cheaping out and then telling drivers it's a premium car brand that will pay for itself with robo taxi services.
I don't think anything Rober does is out of virtue.
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Bonus deep dive about using LiDAR to map out space mountain
I wouldn’t exactly call that a deep dive.
The channel is for 5-year-olds, they would drown in a real deep dive
Easy: „If you want to learn more check out our second channel where we explain in depth how we approached this topic, the technology used and what we learned.“
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Im shocked Disney isnt thowing a fit over that. Their legal team must be busy this week.
Getting into a legal battle with an immensely popular YouTuber would probably cost them a lot more in bad publicity than they would reasonably make from a lawsuit. I guarantee someone at Disney is doing or already has done the calculations.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/article/2024/aug/15/disney-wrongful-death-lawsuit-dismissal
Disney is not scared of lawyering up.
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Self-driving in general has been overhyped by grifter tech bros like Elon and really shows the current limits of ML. Today, ML models are basically fuzzy, probabilistic functions that map inputs to outputs and are not capable of actual reasoning. There is a long tail of scenarios where a self-driving car will not generalize properly (i.e., will kill people). Throwing increasingly more data and compute at it won’t suddenly make it capable of reasoning like a human. Like other ML use cases, self-driving is a cool concept that can be put to good use under the right conditions, and can even operate mostly without human supervision. However, anyone claiming it’s safe to let today’s “self-driving” cars shuttle humans around at high speeds with no additional safeguards in place either has an unrealistic understanding of the tech or is a sociopath.
IMHO, this was really a video about camera-only automatic emergency braking, not autonomous driving.
Lots of cars have AEB now since a lot of regulators are requiring it, but most use a combination of cameras and ultrasonic sonic. The top-of-the-line systems have LiDAR, cameras, and ultrasonic.
Tesla’s sensors lack redundancy. If the cameras are obstructed or can’t distinguish shapes, the vehicle can’t fall back to another system.
Insane that the telsa drives into spaces its unsure of. So dangerous
That's the thing that got me. I would have issues spotting that child through the fog as well, but I wouldn't have sped through it.
A Tesla stopped for me at a crosswalk and I insisted, you go on ahead, I ain’t trusting Musk Tech with my life.
What makes you think it’s unsure?
True its not unsure but it should be. If it doesn't have good viability it should have slowed down or disengaged auto pilot.
In fog it doesn't know it doesn't have good visibility.
If it had lidar then it would
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Sure, but their sensors will detect if you aren’t paying enough attention and report back to Tesla headquarters to get the lawyers ready before you can even get out of your car.
I’ve been shit-talking Elon’s (absolutely boneheaded) decision to intentionally eschew system-redundancy in systems that are critically responsible for human life for years now. Since he never missed an opportunity to show off his swastikar in MANY of his previous videos, I had assumed Mark Rober was a sponsored member of the alt-right intellectual dark web. But I’m pleasantly surprised to see that this video is a solid (WELL-justified) smear. 👌
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Thank god it doesn’t have LIDAR sensors, much cheaper to repair the front this way
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Ahah Tesla is like a 2000s knock-off of good existing technology
What about the claims that he only used Autopilot, and not Tesla's Full Self Driving?
(Context: I hate Tesla, just curious for the sake of an honest argument)
Not any tangible difference in this scenario. Both use vision only. And both use the same computers.
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The other car only used emergency breaking, so there's that.
He was helping out Tesla by doing that. He was helping them get the wins they got instead of just Tesla massacring the kid every time. Note to self: As a pedestrian and you see a tesla, don't cross the street.
I like to help a Tesla out by throwing it batteries, Philly style.
"Full shelf driving" still needs to be in quotes. It's a feature's brand name for a product that doesn't actually have full self driving capabilities.
Try not to carry water for their attempted, repeated lie.
All the other cars he tested stopped just fine. Who cares about fiddling with modes and shit.
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