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[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (6 children)

What about the claims that he only used Autopilot, and not Tesla's Full Self Driving?

(Context: I hate Tesla, just curious for the sake of an honest argument)

[–] sour@feddit.org 17 points 10 months ago

The other car only used emergency breaking, so there's that.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not any tangible difference in this scenario. Both use vision only. And both use the same computers.

[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But do they use a different software? Maybe FSD is more advanced than autopilot and could have reacted better?

Just playing devil's advocate here.

[–] undefinedValue@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

The software may change but these tests show it’s the hardware that’s limiting them. If the Tesla can’t see a kid through fog, it doesn’t matter what software you pick, that kid gunna die.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, completely different software, but both are limited by machine vision.

[–] RickC137@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Human drivers use vision only

[–] toolverine@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Human drivers generally use sound as well.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fortunately humans have much better hardware and software to accompany that vision.

[–] RickC137@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

FSD hard and software has just to be good enough for the job.

And still we cause so many deaths because we are tired, distracted or emotional when driving.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

FSD hard and software has just to be good enough for the job.

But...it's not.

[–] RickC137@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Based on? Have you seen the progress in users YouTube videos?

It's not there yet but I don't see how it can't work with vision only. It just has to be safer than human drivers.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Based on?

The fact that both systems are vision only, as I said previously.

Have you seen the progress in users YouTube videos?

Even better, I used it myself. For 3 months. It's awful.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He was helping out Tesla by doing that. He was helping them get the wins they got instead of just Tesla massacring the kid every time. Note to self: As a pedestrian and you see a tesla, don't cross the street.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I like to help a Tesla out by throwing it batteries, Philly style.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

All the other cars he tested stopped just fine. Who cares about fiddling with modes and shit.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

"Full shelf driving" still needs to be in quotes. It's a feature's brand name for a product that doesn't actually have full self driving capabilities.

Try not to carry water for their attempted, repeated lie.

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

Philip DeFranco had him on Yesterday and he said the reason he didn't use FSD was that it required you to input an address, but that there isn't any difference in terms of the sensors being used.

Given that the other car didn't appear to have a version of FSD either, I'm unclear as to why Autopilot wasn't the correct move for the most accurate comparison.