Someone's doing the happy hunny dance....
this post was submitted on 05 Mar 2025
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I dont think there is a single privacy friendly EV on the market.
If a Canadian company could build and export an EV that wasn't loaded with invasive sensors and where the data recording and uploading was opt-in (or non existent), loads of US Americans and Europeans would import them from Canada.
I think we should build them ourselves.
Why can't you guys make your own? Its not hard. Musk figured it out.
No he didn’t. They were already making them when he got there.
Tesla stands no chance to compete with Chinese vehicles. It's wild how high quality and cheap these Chinese cars are.
I wouldn't really call the high quality tbh. At least better than Tesla.
Canada has the same incentive to not open the door to Chinese EVs that the US does.
Why would they shoot themselves in the face just to splash some blood on someone else?
Canada doesn't have the incentives that the Americans have at all. Correct me if I'm wrong. America's incentive is to protect its own EV industry, Canada doesn't have an EV industry of its own.
What is the reason btw? Genuinely asking because I dunno
It isn’t that an inexpensive electric vehicle from China is bad, in fact that’s great.
The issue is that the cars are subsidized at such a rate that it goes beyond domestic incentive and into “we’ll just make sure no matter what we can sell for less than the competition” in an effort to drive any competition out of business.
It’s an anticompetitive practice that has significant impacts if allowed unchecked.
This is not meant as a value statement about the west, USA or Canada … as in I’m not saying “China bad when they do it, west good when they do it” because it’s bad when it’s done by whoever does it.
Effectively it’s a lever to weaponize fair trade and that’s antithetical to the idea of fair trade, at least insomuch as the international community tends to agree.
Yes but Canada has no EV industry... so, even if it's just temporarily to provide Canadians with an option while telling American companies to suck it... what's the problem?
Are we really going to say we don't to business with China because of anti-competitive practices when we have been doing business with American doing WAY worse all along?
A worthwhile note is also that pretty much all US car manufacturers have dragged their feet doing EVs, excluding Tesla. So naturally US car manufacturers are struggling a lot with the massive costs related to adopting EVs now, and struggle competing with a country that spent this money getting established a good while ago.
The subsidies are still a problem, but the 100% tax is in my view a massive handout to domestic manufacturers that never bothered to try until they were behind. That 100% price increase in Chinese will probably mean high margins on EVs for yet some years before cheap alternatives come along.
Why does that matter to Canada? They don't make their own EVs. They have no domestic manufacturers to protect against dumping. Might as well just get as many cheap vehicles as you can, while you can.
Chinese EVs are very dangerous because of low quality standards. There are plenty of videos with batteries catching fire and the EVs burning up in the middle of the road.
This is not true.
This is also not true.
There are tons of those videos from Teslas.... so unless you have a legit source showing Chinese EVs are more dangerous than Tesla's, your comment is nothing but an annecdote
Canada can set safety standards however they want. Chinese EVs are available elsewhere, like Australia. Are they catching fire there?
Or is there one video in China where these vehicles already sell in huge numbers?
Your opinions on the Cyber truck? (An American EV that is very dangerous because of low quality standards)
I have a better alternative: invest in viable alternatives to driving! expand protected bike lanes, build the damn high speed rail, more trains, trams and bus lines. One more asphalt lane for cars wont solve traffic problems :)
Love this idea; however, bringing Chinese cars is like applying pressure to the wound... fixing public transportation is the long term healing process.
1 - They are not mutually exclusive, bring the Chinese cars now while starting on the long term public transportation projects
2 - The Federal gov can act on the Chinese cars now... public transportation is 100% Provincial purview so an entirely different team needs to address this other priority
Walkable cities. Biking infrastructure. Reliable public transit.
Regularless of of what'd going on in the world right now, these would make our cities far better.
Along with more work from home jobs?
This is the way
Bang on!
As someone who loves driving cars, I'm completely on board with this. Driving should be optional, and I'd love to leave the car home when I go out partying, or don't want to worry about leaving my nice ride somewhere sketchy overnight.
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