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According to many comments, the US government DOES use SQL, and Musk is not understanding much what's going on.

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[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago

It's going to be so expensive to fix all the damage this government is doing when America next has sensible government

So many skills lost, so many systems broken

[–] Jonnynny@lemm.ee 124 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He got community-noted for being wrong. Per usual, it's only a matter of time before he deletes his post.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 50 points 6 days ago (1 children)

More likely, he'll delete the community note

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

More likely, he'll delete the database.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Shit, I'd love for him to delete the twitter databases

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[–] Sal@mander.xyz 80 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Someone needs to explain to Musk how to debug with the JSON so that the ipv6 GUI does not overflow into the git API front-end

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 24 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Easy. Just defragment the kernel flux, water root but do not saturate the soil, and then set the virtual tensors to sigWumbo++. If you saturated root then set the tensors to asyncoMumbo-- to account for the extra conductivity. After that refragment the kernel flux because it was happy that way.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 63 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The more this dipshit talks about programming the more I'm convinced that he's got absolutely no clue how any of it works. Like, he's famous for creating PayPal, I'm really wondering if he paid someone to code that shit and just took credit (and all the money from its sale).

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 60 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

He didn't create PayPal. He co-founded x.com, and was replaced as ceo for being inexperienced in less than a year. x.com later merged with confinity, which operated PayPal. It was at this point that musk returned as CEO, until he got kicked out again in 2000.

[–] glitches_brew@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

Here's a video out there where he's talking to Twitter devs telling them they need a total rewrite because their stack is too complicated.

Someone gives him the slightest amount of pushback by asking what exactly he means by a rewrite and he cannot give a coherent answer. Someone else asks him to clarify what it is about their stack that is 'crazy'. Elon gets very flustered and can only respond by calling the guy a jackass.

He knows absolutely nothing about programming.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago

I'd bet a million dollar one of his lil baby faced goons did an export to .csv so Leon could open it up in excel, do a remove duplicate values, and send it back and have the goon could glaze him for being a genius.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Tax dollars are definitely being stolen... by this unelected buffoon

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[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 57 points 6 days ago (4 children)

He sure is loose with that r-word…

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Those who live in Asperger's house shouldn't be casting retarded stones.

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[–] SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago

It gets a reaction and that lets him feel something.

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[–] dragonlobster@programming.dev 66 points 6 days ago (6 children)

It's hard to figure out what he's talking about , when he says the "whole social security database". Like in which tables are they duplicated? Does it mean the entire row is duplicated or just the SSN, it might make sense to be duplicated depending on the schema. Is it an append only db, so there might be updated columns on the same ssn and you need to filter by the latest update timestamp? Who knows.

But also, saying that there's a "social security database" and then following that up by the govt "doesn't use SQL" so.. the db is actually just a spreadsheet? A .txt file? The SSNs are just written down in someone's notebook? Lol

[–] frezik@midwest.social 35 points 6 days ago (4 children)

SSNs are reused. Someone dies and their number gets reassigned. The database could easily be keeping track of all previous assignments for any given SSN.

Remember, SSNs are designed for social security and nothing else. They got picked up as a unique ID by private interests as a hack. They were never supposed to be as widespread in use as they are. The federal government using it this way is the specific, designed use case.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Yep, and any attempt to replace them with a purpose designed government ID has gotten conspiracy nuts to shut it down

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[–] Amanduh@lemm.ee 21 points 6 days ago

Musk just uses words to sound smart which is such a stupid thing to do on the internet when so many people can easily call your bullshit.

From rod Hilton on mastodon "He talked about electric cars. I don't know anything about cars, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

Then he talked about rockets. I don't know anything about rockets, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software & Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from his cars and rockets."

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He looked over the shoulder of one of the script kiddies he hired and saw 2 lines with the same SSN, freaked out, remembered some database words he picked up somewhere and hopped on twitter.

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[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

It’s LotusNotes all the way down

[–] iii@mander.xyz 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Or mongoDB 🙄

Probably something bespoke/legacy.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (6 children)

He did the exact same thing after taking over Twitter, talking about "poorly batched RPCs" in the timeline which makes zero sense because that's obviously not how HTTP works.

The sad thing is Elon regularly shows how much of a very judgmental, "I'm so smart" idiot* he is, but somehow I keep meeting people who think he's a genius. I guess the assumption that money=smart still holds true in the US, despite being disproven time and time again.

*Do we not have a single word for this concept? I come across this kind of person so frequently there really should be one.

[–] CHKMRK@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

There's a saying in German - "Der dümmste Bauer hat die größten Kartoffeln", the dumbest farmer has the biggest potatoes

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Muskian fraud" seems like a good term for someone who desperately claims to be a genius but can't back it up. "Trumpian fraud" seems like a good term for someone who desperately claims to be wealthy but can't back it up.

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[–] commander@lemmings.world 48 points 6 days ago (6 children)

This retard thinks the government doesn't use SQL...

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

SQLite was literally invented within the US military.

[–] cadekat@pawb.social 16 points 6 days ago

[D. Richard Hipp] designed SQLite in the spring of 2000 while working for General Dynamics on contract with the United States Navy.

source

Well today I learned!

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[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 61 points 6 days ago (5 children)

If SSN based fraud is the program then let's establish an actual federal identification number. Even the Social Services bureau tried to get everyone to not use it as the end all source of truth. They only created it for social security benefits, literally only that purpose.

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[–] mrkite@programming.dev 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Everything Elon has ever said could be a top post in r/iamverysmart or r/confidentlyincorrect

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 36 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He definitely doesn't know what deduplicated means...

[–] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If he was smart he would be talking in terms of primary keys and composite keys, but Elon is a stupid man acting like a smart man.

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 35 points 6 days ago

A pretentious asshole billionaire is going to be preaching us about massive fraud. Because he totally earned all his wealth through back breaking honest hard work. Give me a fucking break.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 42 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

When Elon bought Twitter, I realised right away I'd need to close my account.

What made me hurry up exporting my data and closing the account were the reports of Elon Musk personally fucking with the systems, and the subsequent glitches and outages. Had to get it done while the site was still moderately functional.

And they just let this guy get his hands on actually important national computer infrastructure? Fucking hell.

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[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 43 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

Sounds like he got confused looking at a view of a join.

SELECT holder_name, amount
FROM account JOIN transaction ON transaction.account_id=account.id;

-- WTF!! THERE'S DUPLICATES!!!
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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'd bet that the government is probably the largest user of SQL. Unless there are really old systems that predate SQL. I'd imagine they have shitloads of COBOL for example.

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[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago

Isn't it a payments database? One client could have multiple payments. You wouldn't expect client IDs to be unique

[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Where did this come from? Is this a precursor to pushing some blockchain shit or something?

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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 4 days ago

I bet he thinks SQL = MS SQL Server. And nothing else in the front end.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Of course. Everyone who's ever used a DB knows it's BS. As long as the data is structured - which it a) is because he was able to make assertions about it and b) fucking Excel files are enough - it CAN be imported and SQL'd on. Even Excel has built in support for fuck's sake, not to mention Python and PowerQuery.

The dude is a self-certified moron - he probably struggles with the concept of PKI, too.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This sounds just like a former manager that thought nosql was the end all and that SQL had no place.

If course they developed their app that required frequent data migrations because they were in fact very dependent on all the records matching the latest schema.

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1889062581848944961

thought the replies would be better. Some people deducted that it uses plain text.

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