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[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 31 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Who cares that people are experiencing food insecurity due to egg prices because being vegan just makes us better than them am I right?

[–] lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm sure that if they look really hard in the store there are cheap bags of dried beans that would go a lot further than eggs even before the price increase.

People facing food insecurity due to egg prices increasing are relying too much on one source of nourishment.

[–] hornywarthogfart@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It feels disingenuous to approach this topic with the view that the eggs are the problem and people need to just eat fewer eggs.

The problem is the food cost increases and the eggs are just one example. It's called nuance and we've lost our ability to understand it. Stop trying to blame consumers for this when it is driven by profits.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It sounds like y'all are using the egg price as a barometer, very much the same way the French use the baguette price to talk about the economy and inflation, because it's something everyone relates to (except the politicians that are sure to be made fun of when they get it wrong, exposing how out of touch they are with the common folk).

Agreed, the comment I was replying to indicated the solution was to just eat something cheaper than eggs while ignoring the fundamental issue of food costs. I was trying to highlight that in my response to that post.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

You're right, a single parent working three jobs definitely has the time and energy to change their food preparation habits. Definitely. Eggs being expensive is totally OK and doesn't hurt anyone unless they're both stupid and lazy. You're right.

Fucking twat ...

[–] lonerangers1@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Vegan is better. Go try and prove me wrong. Try from an ethical standpoint and a economical, and nutritional. Find an angle to argue that plant based diets aren't better for everyone.

Sitting in my chair, understanding that factory farming is propped up with government funding, and raising chickens to lay eggs is a really inefficient way to produce protein. All the space and energy to collect chicken periods and the first step is to throw half the baby chicks in a grinder because they have a dick. I can watch a video of tofu being made and not loose my appetite.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I agree that vegan is better from an ethical standpoint. That doesn't somehow make it OK to celebrate families suddenly having to deal with food insecurity. Have some empathy for people for fucks sake.

[–] lonerangers1@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

celebrate

oh please, no one is celebrating.

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[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago

legumes are cheaper and more nutritious than eggs

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[–] amzd@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s kinda our business too because people are still forcing birds into confined spaces and making them sick, and being vegan is a stance against that.

[–] python@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'd even argue that higher prices on eggs would make people cram more birds into the same spaces just to produce more eggs and make more money

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It is our business though, because when all those omnis come down with the latest zoonotic bird flu they endanger the entire population. And if the population did actually opt for tofu scrambles you just know that the industry would jack up the price of our cheap tofu.

Not to even mention, if you're vegan then factory farming is always your business, ideologically speaking.

[–] TangoNoir@lemm.ee 23 points 6 days ago

You don't have to be vegan to make a tofu scramble.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Uh oh, you've stirred up the armchair nutritionists again! Here to tell us how nutritionally deficient a plant-based diet is!

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago (8 children)

The issue is that for a lot of poor people, eggs were a great and easy way to get proteins.

Vegan diet is absolutely viable for the vast majority of people. However, the access to quality vegan food to all the population isn't there yet.

Food desert are real and at least eggs were easier to get there than dried beans and rice. And that options is getting out of reach for a lot of people.

[–] stray@pawb.social 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding the problem, but aren't foods like beans and rice which can be ordered in bulk online a good solution for people stuck in food deserts? I would think that anything with a long shelf life would be superior to perishables. (American eggs have to be refrigerated, right?)

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

It's a multifaceted problem, and you are thinking in terms of people getting the best for their money instead of people being starved and trying to make a dollar last.

  1. Buying in bulk is expensive upfront. If you are squeezing pennies, it is probably not an option for you.

  2. Eggs have different nutrients that beans don't have. One of them being fat for example. If you can't get it from eggs anymore, you need to add that cost as well to your expenses.

  3. People that lives day to day with a squeezed budget have to pivot right now, as in today, to different sources of food. I can afford to phase out expensive food from my diet, but for many people it's the difference between starving or not today. If you already don't have much options, switching on a dime isn't realistic.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You're gonna find beans, soy and rice in a food desert a lot easier than eggs. The food desert I've lived in had at least two of the three in almost every bodega.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

"Why don't poor people just buy healthy food at their local bodegas?" - A statement made with incredible privilege and zero self awareness

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[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Then go tell all these people that are hurt by the egg prices going up they are wrong.

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[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, Just Eggs alternative is still eight fucking dollars and climbing.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (11 children)

Hmmm… this might be exactly my take when vegans start to pay more because trump decided to flood the farms that produce a big part of their diet. Or when they realize that Mexico and Canada produce a lot of it as well.

Maybe it’s best not to be a smug asshole about things because things have a way of coming back around….

[–] 9blb@feddit.org 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

[...] the farms that produce a big part of their diet.

Those farms produce the majority of your calories as well, btw.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Looks like none of us should be smug assholes about it then, eh?

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm vegan and agree with your take here. We're all in the same big stupid boat together.

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago

The sad part (and why this meme is way off base) is because odds are prices will go up on all foods because of Trump's insanity.

Keep in mind though, plants are used to feed animals. Everything that increases plant prices will increase animal product prices that much more. Just as oil and gas prices increase all of the above because everything is dependent on fossil fuels still.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Seems like you're inferring a lot from a meme...

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[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 3 points 5 days ago

But at least they're canning the Consumer Protection Bureau so that contaminated eggs can flood to market, bringing prices down

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Any recommendations for a good source of omega 3 fatty acids for a plant based diet?

I think you'd probably need more than in an animal based diet since plant based fats and oils have way more omega 6 then animal based fats which can fuck up the balance.

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The opposite is true, o3/6 exist in balance. If you don’t eat any omega3 your body gets a lot better at converting o6. Vegans get better omega readings than people who eat fish 2-3x a week.

Ground flax in cooking and you’re sorted

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[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Ok so, i understand that it's way more than it used to be but... Is $10 for a dosen really THAT bad? Are People using eggs literally every meal or something? I LITERALLY heard someone complaining about this while grabbing some at costco. Like genuinely upset and acting like they can never have eggs again while they have a cart easily pushing $400 of stuff not all of which is food.

I feel like everyone is strangely focused on eggs when there are way worse things going through the roof

[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Eggs WERE one of the cheapest sources of protein available, so a lot of people depended on them since meat was so expensive. Now even that is taken from us.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

eggs are also just generally really good nutrition, they are specifically meant to fuel the growth of the chick after all
and combined with them being vegetarian, eggs are one of the best foods available.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 days ago

I quit eating eggs in late 2018. At the time, a dozen eggs were well south of $2. I don't think prices increased much until COVID hit. So that's ~$2 to ~$10 in five years. Given that eggs and milk are staple foods, I can see why people would be highly concerned.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

uh yeah 10 bucks for a dozen is pretty fucking horrible, they cost only slightly more than a tenth of that here in sweden.

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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 8 points 6 days ago

Yes and yes. I buy them from a farm, they're cheap and delicious. I have eggs for breakfast and I have eggs as a snack in the evening

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

European here. I am watching these prices unfold in pure shock. Here, 10 eggs cost between 1€ and 3€ depending on the type of farming (free range, free run, and organic).

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[–] LappingDog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

Eggs were historically a very cheap source of protein and have a very diverse nutrient profile because they are designed to grow an animal from scratch. I recall in 2019 doing the math for protein/dollar and things like chicken breast, whey protein, eggs, and milk came out on top, but that was because eggs were 80 cents per dozen. It’s like if chicken breast went from its 2019 price of 1.99 to $15-20 a pound, or milk for $15 a gallon or whey for $100+ a bag. I used to consistently eat 3 eggs every morning because I was broke and eggs + rice + siracha was like a 50 cent breakfast, now that same breakfast would be approaching 3 dollars.

People are so upset because of the 10x effective price increase, just imagine a 10x in any other price in only 5 years. Rent, education, electricity

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